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Offline 1K3

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« on: August 14, 2004, 08:31:23 PM »
Does anyone know what year this type entered service and how did they perform against the Luftwaffe?

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Offline Sikboy

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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2004, 09:50:34 PM »
The Yak-3 entered service in the Summer of 1944.

It had great success against the Luftwaffe. Some people will claim that the Yak-9U is the better performer, but really they are different beasts. The 3 was a lightweight fighter, that was supposed to have nearly the equal in speed/climb, but better manueverability. The flipside, was that it was a bit more fragile.

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Offline Fruda

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« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2004, 11:48:04 PM »
It had better roll/turning characteristics. I'd prefer the Yak-3 over the La-7 for Soviet sorties, if they added it...
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Offline Krusty

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« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2004, 12:03:00 AM »
No, it was not the equal to the Yak9....


The Luftwaffe didn't issue commands to pilots NOT to engage the Yak3 under 15k alt (or so), just the Yak9.

The Yak 3 was underpowered, but was more manuverable, from what I remember. The LW didn't have any problems fighting it (at least not the restrictions placed on fighting the Yak9)
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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2004, 12:11:58 AM »
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No, it was not the equal to the Yak9....


The Luftwaffe didn't issue commands to pilots NOT to engage the Yak3 under 15k alt (or so), just the Yak9.

The Yak 3 was underpowered, but was more manuverable, from what I remember. The LW didn't have any problems fighting it (at least not the restrictions placed on fighting the Yak9)


Err, I thought the order was to avoid combat with "Yakolev fighters without an oil cooler under the nose" (paraphrasing here) which covers both the 3 and the 9U

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Offline Krusty

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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2004, 12:14:57 AM »
I thought it only applied to the 9? *scratches head*
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Offline Sikboy

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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2004, 12:15:41 AM »
One other thing:

The Yak-9U and Yak-3 both had the Vk-107 engine, yet the Yak3 was a bit lighter. So I don't think it was underpowered.

Maybe you're thinking of the Yak-7?

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« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2004, 12:40:07 AM »
Sikboy,

No, the wartime Yak-3 had the VK-105 engine.  The Yak-3 with the VK-107 engine was too late to see service in WWII.
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« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2004, 12:43:38 AM »
According to http://www.wio.ru/tacftr/yak.htm , Yak-3 with VK-107 was too late for WW2 and only 48 were built.

Comparison of Yak-3 and Yak-9U:

Max speed at sea level: 567 / 575 km/h  (352 / 357 mph)
Max speed at altitude: 646 / 672 km/h (401 / 418 mph)
Altitude of max. speed:  4100 / 5000 m (13450 / 16400 ft)
Climb to 5000m (16400ft): 4.5 / 5 min
Turn time: 17 / 19.5 s
Ready weight: 2692 / 3200 kg ( 5930 / 7050 lb )

Yak-3 was much lighter with less engine power,slightly slower, but better climbing and turning.

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Offline Fruda

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« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2004, 03:59:09 AM »
Yes, German pilots were issued warnings about the Yak-3, before the 9U came around. It's in my Military History of WWII book.
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Offline Holden McGroin

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« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2004, 05:34:06 AM »
This is the Yak I want...

445 mph

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Offline Widewing

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« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2004, 11:40:16 AM »
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
This is the Yak I want...

445 mph



Very nice, and it's only 96 mph slower than this....

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541 mph ground speed on second leg of world record run... 9 mph tail wind helped.

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Offline GScholz

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« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2004, 12:53:31 PM »
If it was up to me Holden would get his Yak, and Widewing would get his Bearcat ... I don't think either would be much of a threat since both are unarmed racers. ;)
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« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2004, 01:22:22 PM »


Rarebear wasnt always so fast. Yikes!
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Offline 1K3

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« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2004, 03:30:26 PM »
what kind of Yak-3 engine did they use in niemen (or whatever that is:confused:) ? the VK 105 or 107?
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