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Offline phookat

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« Reply #105 on: August 15, 2004, 05:19:25 PM »
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Originally posted by Vad
You know , it is very very difficult to explain.


Change your attitude: instead of "three countries", think "one community".  You are not changing sides at all, you are simply making the game better by evening the teams.  If you and your buddies at work did a friendly pick-up basketball game, and two guys had to leave the other team, you'd fill in their place so the game could continue.  Right?  This is no different.

So, it's not a "betrayal", and the 51D doesn't give you any advantage.  It's just what you like to fly.  And you are helping the game by switching to the other team and keeping numbers even.

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« Reply #106 on: August 15, 2004, 05:22:13 PM »
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Originally posted by dtango
Hi Arlo:

Sorry man, I can't see the logic in your statements.  Not sure how your big mac story illustrates the invalidity of the statistics.

Also if replying to your claim that I was indicting HTC's business is being defensive - wow sorry you see it that way.  I would assume that a reasonable person like yourself would respond the same way if someone claimed you said something you didn't and try to clarify the message no?

And why do you keep insisting that I am somehow implying HTC made a poor business decision?  That was certainly not the intent.



Hi back yet again again,

Well, I didn't mean to rain on your statistical parade and all but how can you NOT see it? You make a claim, I give you an example of how that claim can indeed be false. You say that it's illogical so I give you another example and you say that's illogical ad infinitum ... all because you used some statistics that you thought applied here perfectly and I didn't buy it.

Just one last chance for you not to see what seems plain as day to me:
  • "The average business will hear nothing from 96 percent of unhappy clients. In other words, only 4 percent will bother to complain. So, for every complaint you hear, twenty-four others go unreported."



Again .... what about the customers posting here that are thrilled with the change? What percentage of the overall customer base do your statistics reveal they represent? What percentage of them will become disgruntled, leave and never come back if HT caves in to the "I pay damned good money for that Lala, dammit!" whine? Then again, maybe they won't. Maybe the "Statistics prove disgruntled customers leave and take their money with them" argument doesn't bear as much merit as you think, in this case.

  • "90 percent of dissatisfied clients will not come back or buy again. "


There will always be a percentage of customers dissatisfied. But do you really think that anyone who's played this game for six months or longer is going to leave and not ever come back over this? If so ... they were just looking for an excuse, probably.

  • "Every dissatisfied client will tell at least nine other people."


Again ... who are they going to tell and what effect will it have, specificly dealing with HTC?

  • "68 percent of clients who stop doing business with you do so because of company indifference. "


If you're not meaning to infer that HTC is indifferent about it's client base then why even bring this particular statistic up? HTC obviously is not indifferent or you wouldn't have even seen this attempt to address customer complaints about disparity in the main arena.

  • "Of the customers who register a complaint, up to 70 percent will do business with the organization again if their complaint is resolved. Up to 95 percent will do business if the problem is resolved quickly."


And what if the complaint is irrational or doesn't reflect or meet the desires of the majority of the customer base? What if changing things back causes an equal or greater amount of protest? It took HT years to come to this decision. I'm willing to bet he expected at least this much meltdown the first week. We'll see, as time goes by, if statistics prove that he'll lose ten customers for every one whining here and never see them again.
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Yeah ... I know .... you don't get it. None of that applies to your perfect statistical logic. How can it?

And hi again again again for next time. :D
« Last Edit: August 15, 2004, 05:27:06 PM by Arlo »

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« Reply #107 on: August 15, 2004, 06:01:48 PM »
Arlo:

I love the AH product as many others do like yourself.  Maybe the stats mean squat here.  In my opinion they aren't meaningless because they represent tried and true business axioms.  We differ on opinion there.  

I copied and pasted the stats from some business information sources.  I never meant to infer HTC was violating any of the points outlined.  They are general business axioms that successful businesses like HTC understand.

The point I was trying to make was:

(1) for those who have a complaint or grievance - boost your "signal" and lower your "noise" :), and

(2) for those who write off others with grievances try and filter the "noise" to pick up the "signal" because there's likely others that have the same grievances so try listening instead of flaming :).

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« Reply #108 on: August 15, 2004, 07:37:13 PM »
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Originally posted by Bammer4
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I pay good money to play this game and to fly these planes. I just watched 32 Bishops log off in the last 30 minutes (I made 33) in frustration. I refuse to pay you ANY MORE money if I cannot fly the planes.

LET ME MAKE IT ABSOLUTELY PERFECTLY CRYSTAL CLEAR.

I REFUSE TO PAY YOU ANY MORE MONEY UNTIL I CAN FLY THE PLANES AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


wow! you mean now we will not see ten thousand `109's and 190's comeing in for a vulch:rofl

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« Reply #109 on: August 15, 2004, 08:14:12 PM »
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Originally posted by flyingaround
 Not going to waste the time arguing w/ someone that obviously doesn't understand something.  
 


No problem, bro. Don't waste you time. Anyway I am going to cancel my account.

And, princess, thank you for taking care of my ass. Don't worry, I always have been careful with doors.

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« Reply #110 on: August 15, 2004, 08:16:04 PM »
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Originally posted by DoKGonZo
...Please try to be more consistent in the future...


I was being consistent.  Every time moil posts his sniping crap, I am going to remind him that he already said he was leaving to play a better game.  

That has nothing to do with the current flood of foot stomping and hand wringing.

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« Reply #111 on: August 15, 2004, 08:44:48 PM »
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Anyway I am going to cancel my account.


I thought you weren't going to cancel your account because it's such a good game?

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« Reply #112 on: August 15, 2004, 08:53:22 PM »
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I thought you weren't going to cancel your account because it's such a good game?


This is very good game, you are right. And you have never seen me on this board before because all my spare time I had spent flying.

Now I can't. It is still very good game but I am not welcome there. So happened. It is not your or HTC or anybody fault, it is just consequence of circumstances.

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« Reply #113 on: August 15, 2004, 09:02:46 PM »
wow...it took you far more energy to participate in this whine (7) to try and get your plane back, than it would have to simply hit enter and type in ".country x"

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« Reply #114 on: August 15, 2004, 09:10:18 PM »
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Originally posted by vorticon
wow...it took you far more energy to participate in this whine (7) to try and get your plane back, than it would have to simply hit enter and type in ".country x"


Yes, you got the point. It is very difficult for me. I know that is very easy for you... and I am not surprised, actually.
But we are different...

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« Reply #115 on: August 15, 2004, 10:08:54 PM »
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Originally posted by hitech
4510: You are starting to push the limits of acceptible behavior on this board.


HiTech


Could you be a tad more specific?  I know I haven't exactly given your operation or product glowing reports.... is that a requirement to be able to post on this board?

I know you have my email address... and I don't mind taking this out of the public eye.  But if I'm on the edge I'd like to know where the edge is.

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« Reply #116 on: August 15, 2004, 10:41:19 PM »
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Originally posted by Bammer4
Nice answers Rook.  

We'll see how you feel after Rook squad nite tonite.  Have fun not being able to defend a single base just because there are too many Rooks logged on.  Be sure to count the number of Rooks that leave the game in the first 30 minutes.

Taking a GV to fight with will not make more planes available to your side.

BT


I fly the La5FN, Mossie, Jug, Pony B, Hellkitty, Hurry2C and G-6 almost exclusively.  I am a Rook, can careless of the numbers AND of the fix.  I don't fly those planes affected, they aren't a challenge.  I'd rather roll a Spit 1 and shot you're cry-baby arse down.  As for the "GV comment", the last thing you want me in, is an Ostie.  

AmReo has said it best so far.

Nopoop, the Whine-O-meter is classic.

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« Reply #117 on: August 16, 2004, 01:22:34 AM »
Take ur raid, fly it fine and use the re-arm pad :cool:

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« Reply #118 on: August 16, 2004, 01:49:16 AM »
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Originally posted by Furious
I was being consistent.  Every time moil posts his sniping crap, I am going to remind him that he already said he was leaving to play a better game.  

That has nothing to do with the current flood of foot stomping and hand wringing.


Sniping crap?  hhhmmm.