Question for veterans.

[SaburoS]

Originally posted by rpm371
VERY leading question Grun. I say you let me blast a few mines and RPG's very close while spraying you with an AK-47. Let's do this for 4 months  in a row and if you have a "few minor" injuries we'll discuss it then.


As long as we are throwing hypotheticals around... what do you thing of a man that used his father's considerable political pull to dodge the draft and get a very coveted Air National Guard stateside post, then wandered off without fulfilling that cushy committment?

Looks like one guy had the guts, the other had the connections.

I'd say he was smart.

[Gixer]

Originally posted by SOB
Sounds like a smart decision to me...of course, I'm not a veteran.

Though not as smart as getting daddy to keep you in the US flying Jets in the weekends.



...-Gixer

[Martlet]

Originally posted by fd ski
It's very simple:

How would you, verterans, feel, about guy who uses his rich daddy to avoid service in danger zone, goes AWOL, and then prances around in flight suit like a fighter pilot ???

More charges of AWOL?  Could you post a link to the NJP procedings?

[MrLars]

Originally posted by Maniac
Thats how you become a veteran. In war its the coward who survives.

This doesn't deserve a comment except for FU!

[Airhead]

Lars, I'm assuming Maniac's comment loses something in the translation.

[MrLars]

Originally posted by AWMac
Kerry served in Nam 4 Months, 12 days...no limp.... notice how his brag of the Bronze Star now is a Silver Star?

He earned both....infact, Zummy wanted to give him the Navy Cross instead of the Silver Star.

[MrLars]

Originally posted by Airhead
Lars, I'm assuming Maniac's comment loses something in the translation.

I hope so, otherwise he just slammed every combat survivor.

[muckmaw]

Originally posted by fd ski
It's very simple:

How would you, verterans, feel, about guy who uses his rich daddy to avoid service in danger zone, goes AWOL, and then prances around in flight suit like a fighter pilot ???

Umm..he was a fighter pilot.

[demaw1]

Gee RPM I didnt know you were a coward, I swear by all I know and believe that never crossed my mind about you. See we do have something in common were both cowards.



Wklink speaks for me.

[Toad]

Originally posted by rpm371
to dodge the draft and get a very coveted Air National Guard stateside post,  

Joining the Guard is "dodging the draft"?

Do you reread before you hit "submit"?

[Silat]

Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Very simple.

Kerry left Vietnam only 4 months into his tour after 3 Purple Hearts for what were undisputedly very  light injuries.

Of course this was his right to ask to leave according to US navy policies.

But my question is how do you feel about him leaving behind his men and his comrades so early when he was still able to fight and in no way impaired by his light injuries.

I was drafted in 69.

I have absolutely no issue with his going home when he had the opportunity. Many were given purple hearts for the same kind of wounds and less. Its a non issue.
I also have no issue with Bush for taking the easier way out.

[Rino]

Originally posted by fd ski
It's very simple:

How would you, verterans, feel, about guy who uses his rich daddy to avoid service in danger zone, goes AWOL, and then prances around in flight suit like a fighter pilot ???

     I guess if he was a fighter pilot, I could care less.  Of course
your view of GW's service and mine vary greatly.  Bet you didn't
know that fighter pilots rarely determine where they serve, no
matter who their daddy was/is.

     Of course you attribute amazing foreknowledge to GW's
commanders in determining that both he and his father would
become CinC in the future.  I bet Cousin Cleo wishes she had
these guys on her staff.

[rpm]

Originally posted by Toad
Joining the Guard is "dodging the draft"?

Do you reread before you hit "submit"?

Why yes I do.

As Colin Powell wrote in his autobiography: "I am angry that so many of the sons of the powerful and well-placed ... managed to wrangle slots in Reserve and National Guard units ... Of the many tragedies of Vietnam, this raw class discrimination strikes me as the most damaging to the ideal that all Americans are created equal ..."

If you think Bush was a warrior, you have your head buried deeply in the sand.

[VOR]

From now on, if I want to get some information about Bush, I'll just ask a question about Kerry. So, how does one get someone to answer a question about *Kerry* without "Bush" being the answer?

[Toad]

Originally posted by rpm371
If you think Bush was a warrior, you have your head buried deeply in the sand.

If you think serving in the Guard is dodging the draft, you have your head buried deeply up your posterior. I'll wager there's lots of Guardsmen from WW2 onward that would cheerfully help you keep it there.