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Offline crowMAW

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« on: August 19, 2004, 07:33:50 AM »
Just remember these two documents:

Larry Thurlow's affidavit  stating he never heard a shot while he and Kerry were rescuing men in the water at Hap Bay River.

Larry Thurlow's Bronze Star citation for the same action where Kerry received his...read the last sentance of the recommendation.

Note: Larry Thurlow was the senior officer of the 5 boat flotilla that day and would have been the person with the responsibility to write (or review and approve if written by another of the PCF commanders) the after action report which lead to the Bronze Star citation for both he and Kerry.

So was he lying then...or is he lying now?

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maybe whoever wrote the citation exaggerated
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2004, 09:01:30 AM »
I don't think you write your own do you??

maybe this will clarify:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5751284/

seems he is still saying there was NO gunfire
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Re: maybe whoever wrote the citation exaggerated
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2004, 10:22:23 AM »
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I don't think you write your own do you??

maybe this will clarify:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5751284/

seems he is still saying there was NO gunfire


So, he accepted a Bronz Star under false pretenses then waited until a reporter using the FOIA to get his military records and now says that HIS medal wasn't earned? Is that right?

Just why has it taken him 30 years to say that his medal wasn't earned either?

< Bill Cosby's god voice > R-I-G-H-T

This is just the beginning, journalists are going to jump all over these guys and if they refuse to release their records then more FOIA filings will slowly show that these guys have no honor.

Eagler, do this...

Place both hands over your ears and repeat this mantra...

lalalalalalalalalalalalalalal alalalalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalala

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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2004, 10:34:01 AM »
Your Freedom of information act and the decleration of Independance are the two things America has that I'm genuinely envious of.

In fact I'd go so far as to say no country is truely democratic if it doesn't in it's own way have an analogue of these two docs.

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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2004, 10:34:52 AM »
Hey, did you guys see that Kerry blasted Bush's plan to withdraw troops from Korea?

And did you seen on the news the clip of Kerry in an ABC interview (I think it was ABC) a week or so earlier telling the reporter that Kerryy thought we should be looking at pulling troops out of Korea?

So what do you think of that? How about some current events?

Kerry says we should be looking at pulling troops out of Korea one week and the next week he's blasting Bush for planning to pull troops out of Korea.

You think he's just pandering for votes maybe?  Say anything to get elected? That he has no real plan other than "I'm not Bush" and "I don't really know what I'm going to do." ?
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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2004, 10:41:17 AM »
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Hey, did you guys see that Kerry blasted Bush's plan to withdraw troops from Korea?

And did you seen on the news the clip of Kerry in an ABC interview (I think it was ABC) a week or so earlier telling the reporter that Kerryy thought we should be looking at pulling troops out of Korea?

So what do you think of that? How about some current events?

Kerry says we should be looking at pulling troops out of Korea one week and the next week he's blasting Bush for planning to pull troops out of Korea.

You think he's just pandering for votes maybe?  Say anything to get elected? That he has no real plan other than "I'm not Bush" and "I don't really know what I'm going to do." ?


Oh I'm sure MrLars saw it:
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=127689&referrerid=3203

He's just holding his hands over his ears though... ;)

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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2004, 11:01:23 AM »
Gee it's hard to tell what the truth is from either of those guys...

Here's something you have to understand...

NAVY OFFICERS LIE!!

I'm in the Navy and can tell you first hand.

They think they are aristocracy
They tell lies on their sailors to cover their own butts
They will do ANYTHING to better their career even if is detrimental to the sailors that work for them
They are sellouts
They are butt-kissers to their upper chain of command.
 
So with that in mind...how can you tell who is telling the truth?

Better yet who cares..Vietnam is soooooo 2 generations ago....nothing that happened there has any bering whatsoever on the modern world...even our military isn't run the same..so what does Vietnam experience have to do with anything?

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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2004, 11:12:34 AM »
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Originally posted by Coolridr
Gee it's hard to tell what the truth is from either of those guys...

Here's something you have to understand...

NAVY OFFICERS LIE!!

I'm in the Navy and can tell you first hand.

They think they are aristocracy
They tell lies on their sailors to cover their own butts
They will do ANYTHING to better their career even if is detrimental to the sailors that work for them
They are sellouts
They are butt-kissers to their upper chain of command.
 
So with that in mind...how can you tell who is telling the truth?

Better yet who cares..Vietnam is soooooo 2 generations ago....nothing that happened there has any bering whatsoever on the modern world...even our military isn't run the same..so what does Vietnam experience have to do with anything?


Anonimous and AWMac, you guys want to handle this ? :D

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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2004, 11:15:58 AM »
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Anonimous and AWMac, you guys want to handle this ? :D


Handle what? Talk to most Navy enlisted and you will get the same opinion. I actually did a survey.

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« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2004, 12:01:33 PM »
The Republicans are doing some heavy damage control with Swift Boat Vets for Bush. If they charge screaming loudly maybe nobody will notice Bush ducked out of that war and his obligation. Strange that several of those concerned ex-naval officers actually campaigned FOR Kerry during his Senate races.

Why isn't any of Bush's TANG buddies writing a book on how great Dubya was during the war? Because they can't find any that remember seeing him on duty, much less sober.
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« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2004, 12:06:10 PM »
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Originally posted by Toad
Hey, did you guys see that Kerry blasted Bush's plan to withdraw troops from Korea?

And did you seen on the news the clip of Kerry in an ABC interview (I think it was ABC) a week or so earlier telling the reporter that Kerryy thought we should be looking at pulling troops out of Korea?

So what do you think of that? How about some current events?

Kerry says we should be looking at pulling troops out of Korea one week and the next week he's blasting Bush for planning to pull troops out of Korea.

You think he's just pandering for votes maybe?  Say anything to get elected? That he has no real plan other than "I'm not Bush" and "I don't really know what I'm going to do." ?


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Re: Re: maybe whoever wrote the citation exaggerated
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2004, 12:32:10 PM »
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So, he accepted a Bronz Star under false pretenses then waited until a reporter using the FOIA to get his military records and now says that HIS medal wasn't earned? Is that right?



Here is what he says.

"It's like a Hollywood presentation here, which wasn't the case,"Thurlow said last night after being read the full text of his Bronze Star citation. "My personal feeling was always that I got the award for coming to the rescue of the boat that was mined. This casts doubt on anybody's awards. It is sickening and disgusting."

Thurlow said he would consider his award "fraudulent" if coming under enemy fire was the basis for it. "I am here to state that we weren't under fire," he said. He speculated that Kerry could have been the source of at least some of the language used in the citation.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5751284/

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« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2004, 02:11:48 PM »
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Pyro says no hijacking


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« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2004, 04:59:20 PM »
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The Republicans are doing some heavy damage control with Swift Boat Vets for Bush. If they charge screaming loudly maybe nobody will notice Bush ducked out of that war and his obligation. Strange that several of those concerned ex-naval officers actually campaigned FOR Kerry during his Senate races.

Why isn't any of Bush's TANG buddies writing a book on how great Dubya was during the war? Because they can't find any that remember seeing him on duty, much less sober.


Once again: Ask the question,"Kerry?" and you'll get the answer "Bush."

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« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2004, 05:03:25 PM »
So Thurlow is trying to say that he NEVER EVER read his own Bronze Star action report?

Come on guys! This is so comical it's sad.