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Offline Captain Virgil Hilts

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« on: August 19, 2004, 03:22:11 PM »
This is NOT flame bait, and it is not a whine, I'm asking an honest question of the community here.

I would hope that it does not offend Hitech or HTC, or become too controversial. If it does, I have no issue with it being closed or even deleted.

I have one request in regards to that however: If someone posts something inflammatory or offensive, rather than close the thread, could an HTC employee please delete or otherwise remove the offending post rather than lock the thread? The information may prove valuable to someone.

In answering, please just simply state your position on using some sort of system to remove features and or planes/vehicles/etc from one side as a way of forcing or attempting to force the numerical balance of the main arena with a simple yes or no to the question.
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Question:

Do you feel that it is fair and reasonable, and a good idea to remove access to certain features and or planes/vehicles/etc from someone else who is also a customer who pays the same fee as you, while allowing you full and unrestriced access to those things you've taken from him,  thereby diminishing his enjoyment of the game, in order to make your enjoyment greater?


Edit: This is not a question about the perk system, meaning unlimited acces to ALL planes but rather the ENY balance system.
« Last Edit: August 19, 2004, 03:50:56 PM by Captain Virgil Hilts »
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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2004, 03:32:36 PM »
We do both virgil, just depends on the thread. But if we edit a post the entire contents of the post will be removed.

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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2004, 03:32:40 PM »
Yes

However you really wrote a "trick question". the goal is to promote a balanced arena...not to inflict punishment on one side or another. The implementation is ABOVE any side however you want to make the result about one side gaining and the other losing.

I dont feel that I'm "losing" anything if I'm on the side with higher numbers and have a plane (or planes) unavailable. It's simply another issue to deal with and overcome. I can accomplish the same thing in a plane with an ENY of 30 that I can with any other plane in the game...it's really a big deal about nothing...
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Re: Honest question to the community
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2004, 03:35:15 PM »
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts

Question:

Do you feel that it is fair and reasonable, and a good idea to remove access to certain features and or planes/vehicles/etc from someone else who is also a customer who pays the same fee as you, thereby diminishing his enjoyment of the game, in order to make your enjoyment greater?


Virgil: I do not belive that is a resonable question. I view it as the same type  question: " When did you stop beeting your wife"


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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2004, 03:37:28 PM »
Absolutely.  Lets say I am a huge fan of the P-40B.  Well, even a fool can see that the P-40B is not competitive in an arena full of 1945 planes.  Therefore, you are denying me my right to enjoy the game in a plane I want to fly.

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Re: Re: Honest question to the community
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2004, 03:40:13 PM »
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Virgil: I do not belive that is a resonable question. I view it as the same type  question: " When did you stop beeting your wife"


HiTech


As soon as I saw how well she can shoot:D

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Re: Re: Honest question to the community
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2004, 03:45:14 PM »
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Virgil: I do not belive that is a resonable question. I view it as the same type  question: " When did you stop beeting your wife"


HiTech


Really? I take it that you mean that no answer can be viewed as being positive. Or only one answer can be viewed as positive.

What I'm after here is a general feel for the attitude of the community. Not to criticize anyone or belittle them. More to make them think, and see what they decide when they think.

Neither a yes nor a no answer is necessarily correct. There is no correct answer, only what you feel.

By all means, if you have a better way to ask the question, I'm certainly interested. By no means do I think the question is perfect as is. Just the best I could do.
« Last Edit: August 19, 2004, 03:47:46 PM by Captain Virgil Hilts »
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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2004, 03:46:26 PM »
Do you feel that it is fair and reasonable, and a good idea to control access to certain features and or planes/vehicles/etc in order to make the game more enjoyable for all?


yes

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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2004, 03:48:49 PM »
Virgil

You wrote that question as someone else on another team taking away your right to fly your plane of choice.

The same thing would never be allowed at any sports game other than Tball.
Team A has 10 players & team B has 18 on the field? Where is the fair play in that?

Thats where you have it backward.
One team having overwhelming numbers advantage takes away My right to play period!

This is not what knights, or bish have decided. This is what HITECH has decided. To level the playing field. To even the score just a little. Take the hint. This is here to stay for the time being. Change happens, deal with it & move on.

Personally I logged on the other morning to find knights under the gun plane wise.

We had 2 to 1 #'s on bishops and were up to 18 ENY or something like that.

We still flew, yaks the greatest killer in AH with a high ENY value.  A20's still rock ground to air, esp if you get it light & fly it like a twin engine p47.

On the whole I've seen much better balance, much better gameplay, and a MUCH more diverse set of planes being flown.

This is a GOOD thing.

Quit thinking about it as being  told what you can't do.
« Last Edit: August 19, 2004, 03:54:23 PM by Ghosth »

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« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2004, 03:54:00 PM »
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Virgil

Take the hint. This is here to stay for the time being. Change happens, deal with it & move on.

Personally I logged on the other morning to find knights under the gun plane wise.

We had 2 to 1 #'s on bishops and were up to 18 ENY or something like that.

We still flew, yaks the greatest killer in AH with a high ENY value.  A20's still rock ground to air, esp if you get it light & fly it like a twin engine p47.

On the whole I've seen much better balance, much better gameplay, and a MUCH more diverse set of planes being flown.

This is a GOOD thing.

Quit thinking about it as what your told you can't do.


You're missing the point here. I'm not trying to make this go away. I've already said I'm not complaining. I am asking a question to see what others think about resolving the issues. I'm dealing with it, I'm just trying to get a feel for the general attitude.
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« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2004, 03:55:25 PM »
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Do you feel that it is fair and reasonable, and a good idea to control access to certain features and or planes/vehicles/etc in order to make the game more enjoyable for all?


yes


You edited the question to allow you to answer it a certain way. Doesn't work that way. I'm looking for something else.
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« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2004, 03:55:54 PM »
The general attitude is this is the best thing since sliced bread!

If that is really what you wanted thats what you should have posted.

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« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2004, 03:56:16 PM »
Sure. All is fair

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« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2004, 03:57:59 PM »
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By all means, if you have a better way to ask the question, I'm certainly interested. By no means do I think the question is perfect as is. Just the best I could do.


Virgil: zanth did just what asked to be done.

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« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2004, 04:04:32 PM »
Actually, what he did was cut out the useless crap in the question.  The two questions mean the same thing.