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Offline Howitzer

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Why the Brewster?
« on: August 20, 2004, 12:05:32 AM »
Since I've joined AH I've seen a lot of wishlists for new planes, and one plane that always makes the list is the Brewster.  Now I was reading "Baa Baa Blacksheep" by Pappy Boyington (which is so poorly written it makes my eyes bleed, no offense to the man) and circa mid 1942 he describes the Brewster as a "dud in combat" and mentions that it is inferior to the a6m.  I believe at the time, they were flying the P40B model, and it outperformed the Brewster in all areas according to Boyington.

I was curious to get some history as to why you guys would like this plane in the game.  Seems like it is close to inferior to some of the early war planes that are rarely flown in the MA to date.  This isn't meant to offend any Brewster supporters, just looking for the other side of the coin.

Thanks!
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Offline Masherbrum

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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2004, 12:51:09 AM »
It blew.

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Offline B17Skull12

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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2004, 01:20:25 AM »
Reason for the Brewster is because of the Super Human finnish pilots tht flew then with not great but awesome success.  Camo has a htread on it.
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Why the Brewster?
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2004, 01:36:33 AM »
I love reading books about Finnish WW2 fighter/bomber stuff.:o
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Offline Blooz

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« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2004, 01:44:01 AM »
The aircraft of underdogs.
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Offline Panzzer

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« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2004, 03:15:32 AM »
What Skull said. ;)

There is a thread (here) about the Brewster that has everything pretty much covered, you might want to take a look at it. It's a long thread (about 7 pages), with both sides of the coin presented..
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Why the Brewster?
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2004, 06:43:30 AM »
Everything that the RAF did with the spit & the Hurri.  The poor finns did with the Brewster.

They managed to be at war with both germany & russian in the period, which amazes me to no end.


I don't believe that any major sim has yet modeled it.  Perhaps its time.

Then again I could get a perfectly useable Beufighter instead which would be usable in the arena.
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Offline Westy

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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2004, 07:36:59 AM »
"Why the Brewster?"


 Because we don't want a Defiant!   ;)
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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2004, 08:44:46 AM »
Historical scenarios aren't very historical when we have to substitue any given plane for another, because it is not yet modelled.

We need the Brewster if we are ever going to have an accurate as possible historical scenario based on Finland vs Russia and/or Germany.

I mean...look at the Kate (Japanese carrier torpedo plane).  In the Midway scenario we had to use SBDs to "mimick" the Kate because it had not been introduced.  The US pilots complained (and rightly so) that the Kate did not have a forward firing gun, whereas the SBD did.  In this regard it affected the balance within the scenario....although in that one it didn't matter too much because the Americans kicked our hienies.
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Offline Grits

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« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2004, 10:09:34 AM »
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We need the Brewster if we are ever going to have an accurate as possible historical scenario based on Finland vs Russia and/or Germany.


Or Mayasia/Singapore/Dutch East Indies. The Brewster was the main frontline fighter there with the RAF, RAAF, RNAAF and the Dutch ML-KNIL and MLD. Also, dont forget VMF-221 at Midway. None are huge impacts on the war (like the Finns) but it would be a nice plane to have at any rate.
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« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2004, 10:56:38 AM »
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I mean...look at the Kate (Japanese carrier torpedo plane).  In the Midway scenario we had to use SBDs to "mimick" the Kate because it had not been introduced.  


Even worse: They used the TBF to Mimick the Kate and the Devastator...

I was shot down in my SBD by a "CAP" Kate lol.

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« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2004, 11:07:17 AM »
Sorry Sikboy is right...sort of:

It was the TBM.  ;)
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« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2004, 11:08:47 AM »
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I don't believe that any major sim has yet modeled it.  Perhaps its time.


It's modelled in Forgotten Battles.  And if you fly on one of the Finnish servers, like Virtual Pilots, you'll see it being flown with extraordinary skill and living up to its reputation.  Very difficult to take off and land due to stubby fuselage and lots of torque, slow, but turns like a bastage.
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Offline Zanth

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Why the Brewster?
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2004, 02:27:15 PM »
They have been asking for it for a long time, I think it is more if a big deal to the european time zone.
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« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2004, 02:31:41 PM »
Because it is the most successful fighter in all of history with a K/D ratio of like 40:1.   That would be the B239 Buffalo not the F2A Buffalo.  It easily whips the A6M2 in a turnfight if it is modelled properly.
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