Author Topic: Furballers -vs- Timid Pilots (Read 9975 times)

Redd · « **Reply #60 on:** August 23, 2004, 09:59:53 AM »

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Originally posted by Shane
My definition of timid would be:

1) having similar planes, generally co-alt or the baddy with alt advantage, yet refusing to engage, i.e., run like H E double hockey sticks for base/(wait for)help.

2) Baddy has alt advantage, regardless of plane matchups, yet refusing to engage, i.e., run like H E double hockey sticks for base/(wait for) help.

I'd a add a 3rd - the most common I see

3) Has huge alt adv, enages in BNZ attacks/extend to 5 K /attack /extend to 5K/attack/extend to 5K/attack/ give up and run like H E double hockey sticks for base/(wait for) help.

WldThing · « **Reply #61 on:** August 23, 2004, 10:34:36 AM »

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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
Are you flying AH2 at all these days, WldThing? I haven't seen you around in ages.

-- Todd/Leviathn

Managing to get a sortie in every few days

I'll look for yas next time im up..

slimm50 · « **Reply #62 on:** August 23, 2004, 01:39:21 PM »

I have a question: is there such a thing, though, as a "timid" furballer? Wonder what that would look like.

mars01 · « **Reply #63 on:** August 23, 2004, 02:12:51 PM »

Funny how it is only the non furball types crying here and making accusations.

The timid flyer doesn't fight and is afraid to die. They don't push the envelope of their skills or plane and are very boring to run into regardless if they are TnB or BnZ.

Many peopleonly fly a plane a certain way because they can't fly it any other way and probably rarely try to because they are affraid to die, if they were not afraid to die they would try different things. These guys are not timid they are just boring.

This is just a game. Personally, if I am not too tired and I feel up to the challenge, I will turnfight in a Corsair and many times I'll be surprised when I end up winning and get out with my hyde. For me it's the challenge.

The bottom line is this is a game and you can be a no risk taker always fly safe and never push a bad situation and puff your chest out about your score type or you can push the edge have some great fights and provide a lot of fun for not only yourself but the other guys you come up against. I would rather die then have people think, "man how boring it is to run into mars, he never fights."

I think Wotan et-al are on target too.

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #64 on:** August 23, 2004, 02:36:12 PM »

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Originally posted by dedalos
I always thought flying timid meant:

1) Not wanting to turn fight a spitV in a (pick anything fast does not turn well) when you have alt advantage.

2) Not comming down to fight a 1 on 5 when you have alt advantage.

See the film I posted of what a timid pilot is.

ack-ack

icemaw · « **Reply #65 on:** August 23, 2004, 02:51:55 PM »

I fly my computer animated plane anyway I like anytime I want to. Sometime I grab a T&B and furball low and slow sometimes I grab a B&Z and cherry pick. Sometimes I load up bombs and blow stuff up. Heck I might even GV or Fluff if the mood soots me. If I make some virtual jock all pissy in the process all the better! After all who likes dry wheaties somebody has to pee in them might as well be me.

Polaris · « **Reply #66 on:** August 23, 2004, 03:44:20 PM »

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Originally posted by Shane
so when you die, and i'm sure you do... in the name of "realism" you cancel your account and then open a new one?

No, I keep my .40 cal pistol by my side when I play so that I can shoot myself to simulate a pilot wound.

You're pathetic. Go troll somewhere else.

Polaris · « **Reply #67 on:** August 23, 2004, 03:45:25 PM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
Good man Polaris. If only there were more like you.

~~Sir!~~

mars01 · « **Reply #68 on:** August 23, 2004, 05:00:15 PM »

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I fly my computer animated plane anyway I like anytime I want to. Sometime I grab a T&B and furball low and slow sometimes I grab a B&Z and cherry pick. Sometimes I load up bombs and blow stuff up. Heck I might even GV or Fluff if the mood soots me. If I make some virtual jock all pissy in the process all the better! After all who likes dry wheaties somebody has to pee in them might as well be me.

Yeah but no matter what you up you fight regardless.

debuman · « **Reply #69 on:** August 23, 2004, 07:09:23 PM »

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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Very well said Wotan.

If anyone wants to know what a timid pilot looks like, here's a film of one in action. It's really sad to see the P-38 being flown like this Rook flew it. Timid pilots should be forbidden from flying that plane.

Brave Sir Robin

ack-ack

I can't believed I watched that whole film and you never got him! (but at least it gave me something to do while feeding the baby...no, not mine!)

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #70 on:** August 23, 2004, 11:26:40 PM »

After awhile it was not so much as trying to get him but to see how high he would grab and how far he would run. Unfortunately though my crappy shooting made me blow the one chance I did have.

ack-ack

Stang · « **Reply #71 on:** August 24, 2004, 12:37:14 AM »

LOL just watched that film Ack, I should look that guy up in rookland next time i'm on and slap him

Wotan I think you have hit the nail on the head (a couple times this thread). One does not have to choose to fly timidly or yank and bank and die. Successful and FUN flying lies in the middle, swaing to one side or the other as the situation dictates. The trick is you just have to see things unfolding before you and know where you have to be and how to get there. That unfortunately takes experince and a good bit of natural talent, but with enough hours (and deaths) it can be learned. But the fact is the only way you are ever going to learn is by getting yer butt kicked, getting down in the hole so bad that you have to make those rediculous deflection shots to live, and generally flying your arse off pushing it to the limit to get out without dying. If someone just zooms lazily around forever, they have no chance of learning. Ever. To me that kind of flying is ignorant and not narrow minded, and I hate ignorance.

I really think the key is to be as aggressive as you possibly can be. If you have a hole or a shot, TAKE IT. Don't wuss around and wait for the guy to be engaged and then try to cherry pick him. Get in there and kill him before your friends arrive. That drives them nuts and gets you a high kill tally. I love hearing other guys over local vox saying, "Another damn assist" while I'm racking them up because I get in there as hard as I can. I'm not saying go in full bore to the death, but if you can do something, why not do it? Taking chances is the spice of life in AH. Target drones are readilly available and free to shoot at for those not willing to make the leap. I can't tell you how many times in the last few days I've run into guys even in 1 on 1's who make a lazy ho attempt then just run in a shallow dive. If it ever occurred to them to pull a quick immelman and try to get above and behind me I might be beside myself with joy. Hell I might even just sit there, let em kill me and yell a quick WTG! over ch 200 to them for actually showing some skills.

Oh, btw Beetle, I've flown the hog a lot this camp, something feels better about her so I've logged some hours... you can ride the edge in that thing like crazy with the maneuvering flaps and still keep the E to get out when you have too. I think I had a ton of success in it because my opponent wasn't expecting me to do anything aggressive with it... and by then's it's to late for the chap

I wonder why he wouldn't think a hog can't get down and dirty...
What a ride tho! a BEAST!

beet1e · « **Reply #72 on:** August 24, 2004, 02:51:51 AM »

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Originally posted by Stang
I wonder why he wouldn't think a hog can't get down and dirty...
What a ride tho! a BEAST!

Hey - Great! I look forward to seeing the films of these feats of derring-do! I see your k/d in the F4U-1D is 2.72. With a little more practice, you could soon get it up to 3.5 - almost as good as mine!

SlapShot · « **Reply #73 on:** August 24, 2004, 09:11:03 AM »

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Originally posted by beet1e
Hey - Great! I look forward to seeing the films of these feats of derring-do! I see your k/d in the F4U-1D is 2.72. With a little more practice, you could soon get it up to 3.5 - almost as good as mine!

You only wish you could fly the Hog like Stang does.

I came across an F4-U-1 ... low and slow on the water ... after fighting and chasing a wounded 109 back towards their CV.

The 109 headed for the CV deck and the F4-U started to zoom up to meet me. I said to myself ... "Self ... this is going to be quick".

Well what seemed to be like 5 minutes later ... after doing scissors, rolling scissor, vertical scissors, snapshots, stall fighting, I finally ended up dumping my Spit V into the water. This F4U used EVERY trick in the book ... flaps ... gear ... combination of both. I could not believe what his Hog was doing.

"You have been killed by Stang"

Not making excuses, but all I had was 303s and did get some awesome snapshots on Stang (wish I had some 20mms) but he would not stay still enough for me to get a concentrated stream on him.

By far, the best Hog flying I have ever seen and one of the best fights I have ever had ... the sweaty palm, heart-thumpin kind of fight.

SlapShot · « **Reply #74 on:** August 24, 2004, 09:15:43 AM »

That unfortunately takes experince and a good bit of natural talent, but with enough hours (and deaths) it can be learned. But the fact is the only way you are ever going to learn is by getting yer butt kicked, getting down in the hole so bad that you have to make those rediculous deflection shots to live, and generally flying your arse off pushing it to the limit to get out without dying. If someone just zooms lazily around forever, they have no chance of learning. Ever.

This is SO true.