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Offline Gunslinger

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what does Kerry stand for?
« on: August 24, 2004, 01:52:02 AM »
I should start one of these threads every week just to get the left's response.

So here we go, what does Kerry stand for?  We all know he's a veitnam vet but as far as a govt leader what makes him "presidential"?


Challenge:  I bet you cant answer any one of these questions without mentioning Bush or anything Bush has done.

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Re: what does Kerry stand for?
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2004, 02:26:39 AM »
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Challenge:  I bet you cant answer any one of these questions without mentioning Bush or anything Bush has done.


What does he stand for?

The only reason you ask this is because you're predisposed to either not hearing it, or not accepting it.

It is as if you think he cannot possibly be for real. Which is your perrogotive, but it doesn't mean that his stances don't exist, however disagreeable they may seem to you.

Mostly, he's just a smart, decent guy.

What makes him presidential?

Being President helps. Truthfully I don't really know what that word means other than apearences. But there's something weird that happens when someone goes from being a candidate to being the actual President. You can witness the change right there on your TV and it happens in a single day. They just suddenly look different.

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« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2004, 02:35:34 AM »
Kerry stands for whatever he thinks people want to hear in order to help him get elected. That's Kerry in a nutshell.

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« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2004, 02:37:54 AM »
I think Gunslinger was looking for a more issue based response, something like this from the Democratic Platform:

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Re: Re: what does Kerry stand for?
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2004, 02:38:33 AM »
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What does he stand for?

The only reason you ask this is because you're predisposed to either not hearing it, or not accepting it.

It is as if you think he cannot possibly be for real. Which is your perrogotive, but it doesn't mean that his stances don't exist, however disagreeable they may seem to you.

Mostly, he's just a smart, decent guy.

What makes him presidential?

Being President helps. Truthfully I don't really know what that word means other than apearences. But there's something weird that happens when someone goes from being a candidate to being the actual President. You can witness the change right there on your TV and it happens in a single day. They just suddenly look different.


No nash....these are real genuin posts.  They may have a reason like: to prove to the left they have no clue who they nominated.  

Seriously though...smart....decent guy.  NO ONE CAN TELL ME WHAT THIS GUYS CONVICTIONS ARE.....they only thing they can do is recite what they do not like about Bush and then be completly convinced that Kerry will be that much better.

I think the librals are getting the short end of the stick here.  They were sold a bag of goods not knowing most of it was way beyond the expiration date.

The best way I've heard Kerry described is like this:  "he's like a REALLY REALLY bad blind date"

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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2004, 02:41:23 AM »
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I think Gunslinger was looking for a more issue based response, something like this from the Democratic Platform:


close but I'd rather hear this from Kerry himself not from the DNC platform.  From what I've heard from Kerry if Bush had said the same thing all of this would be BAD and he'd want to know how he's going to pay for it.

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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2004, 02:41:59 AM »
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Kerry stands for whatever he thinks people want to hear in order to help him get elected. That's Kerry in a nutshell.


I can understand how having stances that appeal to a majority of Americans may look like his stances are designed appeal to a majority of Americans.

But uh.... what exactly is wrong with advocating for the positions that that majority of Americans hold? Isn't he supposed to represent you? Isn't that the way democracy ideally should be?

Welcome to the fringe, Nuke.

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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2004, 02:45:59 AM »
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I can understand how having stances that appeal to a majority of Americans may look like his stances are designed appeal to a majority of Americans.

But uh.... what exactly is wrong with advocating for the positions that that majority of Americans hold? Isn't he supposed to represent you? Isn't that the way democracy ideally should be?

Welcome to the fringe, Nuke.


it's not so bad actually

it just matters which Americans he's responding too......OR.....If I could just hear WHAT that position was I could judge weather or not I agree with it.

I have not heard ONE thing from Kerry that says he takes a stance on anything.....unless its something that goes against somthing Bush said.

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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2004, 02:46:14 AM »
Nash, you are a smart guy. Can you get through the BS and tell us what Kerry actualy stands for? I can't

He's trying to play all sides of all issues and he's not doing a good job of it.

P.S. welcome back from your holiday..I just got home today from mine :)

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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2004, 02:47:25 AM »
K is for his kindness for all people.
E is for the Earth's vast resources.
R is for his rich ... and noble family.
R is for .... his rich ... and noble family.
Y is for how young botox makes him look.

Put it all together you have .... Kerry.

And don't forget .... he won three Purple Hearts.

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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2004, 02:48:49 AM »
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close but I'd rather hear this from Kerry himself not from the DNC platform.  


lol... that cracks me up.

How would you like this information delivered to you? In an advertisement? From a stump speech?

Gimme a break... His positions are there for anyone to have a look at. You will not see them on TV because it is exactly your ilk that has removed that possibility from being a worthwhile means of communicating to you.

You want soft (hard), easy, and digestible. Hate in bite-sized peices.

So no my friend.... Instead you get BS ads, BS speeches and it's exactly what you deserve. That's fine, because it's really all you seem to want.

Otherwise you would have looked into it your own self, and not needed to ask here.

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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2004, 02:50:33 AM »
So what you are saying is you can not tell me what does kerry stand for.

what will he do that will make him a better president then Bush?

You can insult me all you want but you are just proving my point.

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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2004, 02:52:29 AM »
Okay fine...

Kerry stands for leadership abilities.

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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2004, 02:53:56 AM »
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lol... that cracks me up.


Gimme a break... His positions are there for anyone to have a look at. You will not see them on TV because it is exactly your ilk that has removed that possibility from being a worthwhile means of communicating to you.



His positions are such that he never states them himself, but require "looking up"  Kerry can't run on his views, because mainstream America will not tolerate and are 180 degrees opposed to  his views.

Nash, can you list in your own words some of Kerry's stances on major issues for Americans? Please?

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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2004, 02:58:28 AM »
You will get 65% Clinton, and 35% Bush Sr.