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Offline Silat

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« Reply #60 on: August 25, 2004, 02:08:50 AM »
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It sounds as though they are not familiar with the internet.

OK everyone, move the pointy thing on your screen to the "link" below til it turns color and click the left button on your mouse. No, not the right button, the LEFT one. You may then read.

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/

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Horn Im going a step further to help them:)
 
John Kerry and John Edwards will stand up for America's values and have a plan to build an America that is strong at home and respected in the world. They believe we can have a strong economy focused on good-paying jobs, a health care plan that reduces costs, an energy plan that frees us from Mideast oil, and they believe we can strengthen our military and lead strong alliances that keep America safe and secure.

Learn more about John Kerry's agenda by following this link at which you can click on one of the following issues http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/


Children & Families
Civil Rights
Economy
Education
Energy
Environment
Health Care
Homeland Security
National Security
National Service
Rural America
Science and Technology
Stronger Communities
Veterans
Women
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« Reply #61 on: August 25, 2004, 02:16:35 AM »
Sorry Silat that just won't do.

I quoted from Kerry's website and was told my argument was weak.
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« Reply #62 on: August 25, 2004, 06:27:09 AM »
in 20 years of Senate spweing, skerry has talked the talk but never walked the walk

he is the one who has stated "just saying it doesn't make it so"

he is the tard who changes his mind with the wind

between those two facts, how do you believe anything today he says that he'll do tomorrow?

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« Reply #63 on: August 25, 2004, 04:50:14 PM »
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Sorry Silat that just won't do.

I quoted from Kerry's website and was told my argument was weak.


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The sheep hear what they want to hear and disreguard the facts.
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« Reply #64 on: August 25, 2004, 05:24:39 PM »
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The sheep hear what they want to hear and disreguard the facts.


not the sheep, the donkeys - LOL
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« Reply #65 on: August 26, 2004, 07:23:04 AM »
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What Kerry built his senate seat on.




You know that book is out of print and although the publisher would like to reprint it (and make a few million off of it during the election year) Kerry refuses to allow a reprint, and has had campaign workers buying up copies found on ebay and in bookstores. So, to answer the question of this thread's subject...here is what John Kerry stands for (PDF versions of his book that made his political career):

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier%20Inro.pdf
http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier.pdf
http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier%20Epilogue.pdf

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« Reply #66 on: August 26, 2004, 08:20:23 AM »
kerrie stands for getting people out of suv's.... kerrie stands for 50 cents a gallon tax to be used by the government to fund some kind of effiecient government program to get us out of cars..

kerrie feels that it is time someone "stood up to the NRA" and got rid of those psky second amendment rights (except maybe shotguns in hunting clubs for the elite).

kerrie believes that socialism is good.  His running mate is an ambulace chaser that is gonna help reform the health care system?

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« Reply #67 on: August 26, 2004, 09:13:07 AM »
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Wow.....25 posts and still nobody can tell us what Kerry's stances are on the "isssues".


Don't sound so surprised.:rolleyes:
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« Reply #68 on: August 26, 2004, 09:15:24 AM »
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Sandman, I would say it is closer to 99.99999999%.  I leave the 0.000000001 percent for potential error.

I would also say about 85% of the board likes to beat thier heads against the wall.  Maybe more,..certainly not less.



Now THAT'S funny, I don't care who you are.


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« Reply #69 on: August 26, 2004, 09:35:35 AM »
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Originally posted by Nash

I could say that Kerry is a champion of the middle class, not the elite. That he's for an America that is respected, not just feared.


How about, for example, that he will offer a fully refundable  tax credit on up to $4,000 of tuition for every year of college and offer aid to states that keep tuitions down; will lower family health premiums by up to $1,000 a year and use targeted tax cuts to extend affordable, high-quality coverage; will put America on the path towards energy independence by investing in new technologies and alternative fuels and creating tax incentives that helps automakers produce more fuel efficient cars, blah blah blah blah blah.

 


Kerry, born into wealth, married into wealth TWICE, owns multiple mansions, a jet, and a private yacht, is a champion of the middle class? Kerry, who is more liberal than Ted Kennedy, is a champion of the middle class?

Kerry, who met with leaders of Communist North Vietnam in Paris, during the war, while not representing the United States in any official or unofficial capacity, is for a respected America? Kerry, who has not had the intestinal fortitude to stick to one side of any issue he has ever made a statement on, is for a respected America?


Exactly how does Kerry intend to do all of those things he claims he will do, without a substantial increase in taxes, which middle class people cannot afford (and don't tell me he will tax the wealthy, the wealthy will always pass 90% of tax increases on), or increasing the nation debt substantially, which he complains Bush has already done? Who is it that is going to pay for all of that? Him? I doubt it. The wealthy? Not hardly. The working class? You're damned straight they will.

In twenty plus years as an elected representative on the Federal level Kerry has not written or sponsored or championed any substantial piece of legislation that anyone is aware of. Good or bad. If there was something good he'd done, he'd be screaming it at the top of his lungs. If there was something bad he'd done, the RNC would not let us forget it. You know what, the guy has done NOTHING. Except vote further to the left than ANY elected official on the Federal level, consistently. Now THAT is mainstream middle class America if I've ever heard it. :rolleyes:

If you like and want what Kerry stands for, import him to Canada and elect him Prime Minister.
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« Reply #70 on: August 26, 2004, 09:36:24 AM »
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kerrie stands for getting people out of suv's.... kerrie stands for 50 cents a gallon tax to be used by the government to fund some kind of effiecient government program to get us out of cars..

kerrie feels that it is time someone "stood up to the NRA" and got rid of those psky second amendment rights (except maybe shotguns in hunting clubs for the elite).

kerrie believes that socialism is good.  His running mate is an ambulace chaser that is gonna help reform the health care system?

lazs


Nice summary.  :rofl :rofl :rofl
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« Reply #71 on: August 26, 2004, 10:16:12 AM »
So many people buying into this bi-partisan BS. You really aren't voting on a president in the end, you are only voting for the president the people with money in each party want to be in power.

Arguing about who is better of the two worst possible candidates for presidency, like trying to find whats better in Stalin's communism or Hitler's fascism.
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« Reply #72 on: August 26, 2004, 10:23:21 AM »
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Sandman, I would say it is closer to 99.99999999%.  I leave the 0.000000001 percent for potential error.

I would also say about 85% of the board likes to beat thier heads against the wall.  Maybe more,..certainly not less.


I was being generous. :)
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« Reply #73 on: August 26, 2004, 10:24:12 AM »
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here is what John Kerry stands for (PDF versions of his book that made his political career)


I just read through the book.  I didn't see anything overly controversial in there or even over the top.  The only thing I can see that might bite Kerry in the behind is in the epilogue.  He explains there that the "New Soldier" cannot easily return to a normal life of joining veterans groups like the VFW; returning soldiers like himself have become radicalized and disassociated.  Thirty years later he now makes every effort to associate himself with such veterans groups.  This does not necessarily go against what he writes, and a lot can change in thirty years, but it certainly can give the appearance of hypocrisy.

Also, the survey results at the end of the epilogue are interesting if they're accurate.

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« Reply #74 on: August 26, 2004, 10:28:31 AM »
isn't that his middle name?

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