Author Topic: Flame bait in the OC? (Read 724 times)

opus · « **on:** August 24, 2004, 09:16:39 PM »

Who'd have thunk?

Seriously, that is the first message I've seen removed from the OC for being flame bait. So now do you go down the list of Bush and Kerry threads and search for flame bait?

You know its quite possible to ruin even a ribeye steak if you keep handling it until you you squish all the juice out of it.
What is it - things getting boring over there? Heve people in the OC shown a lack of competence in dealing with controversial topics?

Scary - really scary.

Oh well - who cares. Just wanna know if thats how its going to stay - certain topics will be removed if not "twinky/fast food/koolaid" enough so as not to offend any 12 year olds reading? Cause if it is, I have a wasted "Favorite places" slot

DmdBT · « **Reply #1 on:** August 24, 2004, 09:42:48 PM »

I'd say "waaaaaaaaaa" to your post but I heard a rumor that can get ya muted.

opus · « **Reply #2 on:** August 24, 2004, 10:18:57 PM »

"waaaa" is bad, but "baaaah" is good. So is the senselessness of draconian internet bullying.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #3 on:** August 24, 2004, 10:25:32 PM »

I'm pretty sure that egging on the wrath of skuzzy/HTC does not help your cause of "loosening up" in the OC

BTW....what screen name did you used to be?

ygsmilo · « **Reply #4 on:** August 24, 2004, 10:26:26 PM »

Stop posting, your giving Bloom County a bad name.

Return to the land of unwashed and long-eared.

opus · « **Reply #5 on:** August 24, 2004, 10:35:08 PM »

>>I'm pretty sure that egging on the wrath of skuzzy/HTC does not help your cause of "loosening up" in the OC
<<

If airing a staunch disagreement with logical reasons backing it up, stated in a concise manner, is subject to wrath - what am I risking? The title of "good sheep"?

My job pays me - I have to eat dung. This is entertainment, and over zealous, condescending moderation sticks in my throat like a bone. It ain't rocket science. Moderators silence the potty mouths. Anything else is a personal agenda.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #6 on:** August 24, 2004, 10:39:03 PM »

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Originally posted by opus
>>I'm pretty sure that egging on the wrath of skuzzy/HTC does not help your cause of "loosening up" in the OC
<<

If airing a staunch disagreement with logical reasons backing it up, stated in a concise manner, is subject to wrath - what am I risking? The title of "good sheep"?

My job pays me - I have to eat dung. This is entertainment, and over zealous, condescending moderation sticks in my throat like a bone. It ain't rocket science. Moderators silence the potty mouths. Anything else is a personal agenda.

I was mostly referring to "moderate this" in your sig.

I have no clue what you're saying with the whole "eat dung" statement but I do know moderators to alot more that "silence the potty mouths"

If you dont likem dont post.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #7 on:** August 24, 2004, 11:51:06 PM »

Im not big on this whole moderation thing myself but ya had to see this comming a mile and half away.
I know I did.
Hell we were even warned.
But even beore that just the way the threads were going you just knew it couldnt stay that way.

Each new thread seemed to turn and degrade into a flamefest of epic proportions which went to beyond rediculous. And the boards by and large sunk to new alltime lows.

Seems there are a whole lot of people here who cannot dissagree and debate a subject in a civilised manner without resorting to childlike namecalling and personal attacks

Basically the community brought this upon ourselves.
We were given ALOT of latitude for an awful long time and basically the community abused it to the point where something had to be done

Dispite repeated gentle hints to knock it off and at least one thread warning of this everyone just ignored what was said and did whatever they wanted anyway.

If anyone wants to be mad over this dont be mad at HTC
Be angry with ourselves.
Because it is we the community as a whole that let it go on and get to the point where HTC had no other option but to take the action it did.

opus · « **Reply #8 on:** August 24, 2004, 11:59:46 PM »

>>Each new thread seemed to turn and degrade into a flamefest of epic proportions which went to beyond rediculous. And the boards by and large sunk to new alltime lows.
<<

The condescention is believing the moderations have to weed out the flames because the average reader is incapable of skipping over the flames. Yes flames take bandwidth, but editing the board comepletely changes its character, and the question lingers - "am i getting the whole story?"

I think editing ( beyond removing obscenity) creates more problems than it fixes.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #9 on:** August 25, 2004, 12:10:03 AM »

Also HTC is a business not just a free place on the net to flame away.

There have allready been incidents of poeple getting sued for slanderous (or is it libalous) posts made on message boards.

Dont you think The Hightech crew has better things to do (IE working on patches, new planes) than to worry about a legal defense or patrolling their boards for idiots that might damage their business.

Maybe a new customer visits said boards and decides that this game just isnt for him after seeing the o'club's attitude.

that's why this place needs moderators.

Bodhi · « **Reply #10 on:** August 25, 2004, 12:32:23 AM »

I personally blame the democrats and european democrat wanna-be's for bringing the censorship on.

opus · « **Reply #11 on:** August 25, 2004, 12:35:43 AM »

>>There have allready been incidents of poeple getting sued for slanderous (or is it libalous) posts made on message boards.
<<

Er, you do know you can't legaly slander a pseudonym right?
If you said opus killed his family and stole all their money, I couldn't sue you. FYI

Bodhi · « **Reply #12 on:** August 25, 2004, 12:37:57 AM »

sueing people is one thing, winnign the lawsuit is another...

the proof would be next to impossible to say that a person said it.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #13 on:** August 25, 2004, 01:03:16 AM »

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Originally posted by opus
>>There have allready been incidents of poeple getting sued for slanderous (or is it libalous) posts made on message boards.
<<

Er, you do know you can't legaly slander a pseudonym right?
If you said opus killed his family and stole all their money, I couldn't sue you. FYI

It has allready happend look it up on google.

I really dont think a board moderator is "the man" trying to repress your freedoms so get over it.

Whine all you want its their business and their board. You dont like it dont post.

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sueing people is one thing, winnign the lawsuit is another...

the proof would be next to impossible to say that a person said it.

You dont have to lose a law suit for it to cost you money....
Wouldnt you rather have that time and money going into product development?

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #14 on:** August 25, 2004, 01:08:27 AM »

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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Also HTC is a business not just a free place on the net to flame away.

There have allready been incidents of poeple getting sued for slanderous (or is it libalous) posts made on message boards.

Dont you think The Hightech crew has better things to do (IE working on patches, new planes) than to worry about a legal defense or patrolling their boards for idiots that might damage their business.

Maybe a new customer visits said boards and decides that this game just isnt for him after seeing the o'club's attitude.

that's why this place needs moderators.

Forget event he lawsuits.
As you put it HTC is a buisness. the stuff that was being spewed all over the boards was not exactly the kind of advertising I'd want for my buisness.

Also in effect this is HTC's house. We pay to play the game..period. Ther is no charge for posting on the boards.
But this is still HTC's house.
And just as in my house I make the rules and my rule is law and my law is absolute. And if you dont like it, leave.
So it is with HTC here.
And there it is. bottom line

Just like going into a bar. If anyone went inot a bar and started raising the kind of nonsence that goes on the boards here we would be as a comedian once said "tossed outside like a frisbee".