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Offline hawker238

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As Kerry demands Bush silence the Swift Boat Veterans
« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2004, 04:01:30 PM »
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both sides made the rules, now only one side is crying about them ...


Well, you sure are.
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« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2004, 04:04:48 PM »
He's crying about the crying.  That's different.
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« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2004, 04:38:46 PM »
Why should Bush give a rats bellybutton what Kerry "Demands"?

He said he was against ALL 527 ads so why does he have to single out anyone?
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« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2004, 05:00:01 PM »
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Re: a new low for the dumbacrats
« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2004, 05:50:08 PM »
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Kerry Takes Fight Over Vietnam Ads to Bush's Ranch


And in a related development, Fox News reports that Calvary Veterans for Truth have discovered that Max Cleland was actually never in Vietnam.
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« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2004, 06:25:03 PM »
This all sounds like "YOUR LIARS ARE WORSE THAN MY  LIARS"

I seriously think Kerry is showing his bellybutton here all partisanship aside.  

If he wants to fight these adds dont whine kick and scream about them....give a quick mention about how some wholes have been picked through in their (SBVFT) storys and change the subject quickly.

Most vets that hate him hate him for his 72 atrocities speech (wich you can debate all you want but alot of vets still hate him for it)

What's even more amusing is everytime I hear kerry or one of his people bring up these adds they allways say they want to stick to the issues and bring up millions of jobs lost and all of Bush's faults...then they go back to kicking and screaming on how Bush is totally behind these adds.

Didnt Max Cleland today say it was a "proven fact" that he was.....That to me sounds like hearsay....I havnt seen anything proven yet.

Kerry needs to change tactices in a way in wich it doesn sound like he's bowing away from the fight.
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« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2004, 06:43:01 PM »
Well Cleland trumps Dole by a 2 legs.
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« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2004, 06:43:12 PM »
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I don't believe the Moveon.org's stuff was a 527 issue. They're independent.




http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=aIeXxo.8.2lI&refer=us


The above article shows a comparison between  527's, money raised, money spent, and on behalf of whom.

I'll give you three guesses which side has the most 527's and has raised the most money. The first two guesses don't count.
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« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2004, 06:48:22 PM »
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Well Cleland trumps Dole by a 2 legs.


Unless that's a joke about a disabled veteran missing an arm and both legs I hardly see what dole has to do w/ the conversation.
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« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2004, 06:50:44 PM »
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If he wants to fight these adds dont whine kick and scream about them....give a quick mention about how some wholes have been picked through in their (SBVFT) storys and change the subject quickly.


I think you're exactly right. The fact that Kerry is pressing the issue, thus keeping it in the news (it really only ran in 3 states), means that the Kerry team sees a gain in doing so. Prolly focus grouped it. At this level, nothing's an accident, and nothing is purely reactionary.
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« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2004, 06:57:38 PM »
The truth hurts, distorted though it may be, and Kerry knows it, even if his handlers do not.
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« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2004, 07:00:03 PM »
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The truth hurts, distorted though it may be, and Kerry knows it, even if his handlers do not.


Truth...

er...

Distorted truth....

er...

"Truth distorted though it may be"....

Righto....
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« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2004, 07:01:36 PM »
If Kerry was 100% sure of his facts, he would simply reiterate them instead of attacking the persons making the allegations.  wouldn't you?
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« Reply #28 on: August 25, 2004, 07:09:39 PM »
I happen to think that the very existence of this type of an attack is beyond reproach. It goes beyond Kerry/Bush. It ropes in the entire military, past/present/future, and calls everything into doubt. It tarnishes every act of service before and beyond. That may be a little extreme, but hey it's what I think.

And all concocted by a man not fit to polish the shoes of a 16 year-old cadet. For short term political gain. The cost being long term damage to a deservingly respected institution.

Now... Me personally... Would I fight Bush on the facts regarding this? I would not. I would call him an arse for this approach. But this angle of attack doesn't merit any substantive point by point defense.
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« Reply #29 on: August 25, 2004, 07:24:07 PM »
So, Kerry's questioning of Bush's gaurd record was WAY out of line then?

Kerry is an ultra melon and I can't understand what you see in him. He has done next to nothing in all his years in the Senate, he labeled soldiers in Vietnem war criminals, he says he's for the environment and that "earth day is not just something practiced one day a year, it's a lifestyle" while he himself owns 5 mansions, 2 jets and a VERY large yatch.

Kerry has voted to raise taxes every chance he's had. Kerry is so hollow it's not even funny anymore.

He recently stood at the Grand Canyon in Arizona and proceded to tell the press that the "dimmed vistas "of the grand canyon are due to reckless environmental managment. I guess he didn't care to check that the visibility on that day, as he spoke, was more than 70 miles. The guy is a pathectic joke.
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