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Offline Captain Virgil Hilts

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As Kerry demands Bush silence the Swift Boat Veterans
« on: August 25, 2004, 07:34:53 AM »
Kerry has demanded Bush and the RNC stop 527 groups opposed to Kerry/Edwards, and that Bush denounce the Swift Vets.

However, on his own site, they actually almost brag about Moveon.org and the Media Fund (gotta wonder about that one, you know the media is supposedly unbiased) being Kerry's answer to Bush and others.

I guess it is all fine and good to be a 527 that opposes Bush, that is an example of free speech and good solid campaign tactics. But to be a 527 that opposes Kerry is to run and smear and fear campaign, is illegal, and must be shut down by the FEC.

See link to Kerry's site and read the article there openly stating the Kerry campaign's admission that those 527's are answering on Kerry's behalf against Bush:


http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/news/news_2004_0313.html

Sure, the article is from earlier this year, but show me where Kerry has denounced ANY of those 527's or their tactics. Ever. He has not. But he and Edwards are so hypocritical as to say Bush should denounce the Swift Boat Veterans, and the FEC should shut them down and place sanctions on Bush and the RNC.
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« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2004, 07:37:51 AM »
Campaign finance laws can only be enforced against Republicans.  It's in the fine print.

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As Kerry demands Bush silence the Swift Boat Veterans
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2004, 07:38:50 AM »
I don't believe the Moveon.org's stuff was a 527 issue. They're independent.

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« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2004, 07:40:16 AM »
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While Kerry has not been on the air anywhere since locking up the Democratic nomination March 2, two liberal interest groups - the Media Fund and the MoveOn.org Voter Fund - have been, assailing the president and serving as the Democrats' answer to Bush.

If he doesn't heed his own call to action against 527s, he certainly would be a hypocrite.  I'm guessing he won't.
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« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2004, 07:49:02 AM »
I could be wrong... there's a first time for everything... but I believe it was Kerry who asked that a specific ad be denounced, and it was Kerry who denounced 2 specific ads by a 527 (Bush is Hitler and Bush's Guard Service). It was Bush who made the general sweeping statement regarding 527's so he wouldn't offend his friends in the Swift Boat Veterens for Lies.

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« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2004, 07:51:34 AM »
To be honest MT,
The only way to handle it, is to call for all 527's to end.  Unless you like to cherry pick, that is.

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« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2004, 09:32:13 AM »
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I don't believe the Moveon.org's stuff was a 527 issue. They're independent.


moveon is 527 - the biggest
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« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2004, 09:35:12 AM »
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Originally posted by midnight Target
I could be wrong... there's a first time for everything... but I believe it was Kerry who asked that a specific ad be denounced, and it was Kerry who denounced 2 specific ads by a 527 (Bush is Hitler and Bush's Guard Service). It was Bush who made the general sweeping statement regarding 527's so he wouldn't offend his friends in the Swift Boat Veterens for Lies.


of course he can "denounce" it, he has every other handsomehunkcrat screaming from the highest hill saying they are the truth - LOL
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Re: As Kerry demands Bush silence the Swift Boat Veterans
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2004, 10:05:50 AM »
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
...Sure, the article is from earlier this year, but show me where Kerry has denounced ANY of those 527's or their tactics. Ever. He has not. But he and Edwards are so hypocritical as to say Bush should denounce the Swift Boat Veterans, and the FEC should shut them down and place sanctions on Bush and the RNC.

This should surprise no one.

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a new low for the dumbacrats
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2004, 10:28:09 AM »
Kerry Takes Fight Over Vietnam Ads to Bush's Ranch

what a sad way to gain support ...
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« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2004, 10:30:00 AM »
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moveon is 527 - the biggest


Ah, thks.  I was thinking of F911...

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« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2004, 10:41:48 AM »
People should have th right to organise fundraising mechanisms and spend that money in lawful advertising.  Let the swiftboats and moveon do as they see fit.  I have the ability to filter out the nonesense without kerry or bush impeding each others ability to lie and deceive.
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« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2004, 10:43:45 AM »
John McCain doesn't agree.

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« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2004, 02:44:30 PM »


both sides made the rules, now only one side is crying about them ...
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