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« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2004, 11:34:15 AM »
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Body English....that is what I was trying to say is my downfall.  I use ALOT of it subconsciously.



:lol   I do the exact same thing!  I have a headset with cord which looks like a standard telephone receiver's cord (all coiled up).  I can't count the number of times I've been set up above an enemy during a rope and I slowly lean forward and left as I rudder over to drop on him.  As I'm zooming down, I automatically straighten up only to find the coils are now tangled on the keyboard tray and my head gets yanked back down :eek:   It really tends to blow a good setup ;)

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« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2004, 11:56:24 AM »
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and only 2-5degs for left or right? lil less for quarters?


Correct...panning only though so far don't forget.

ROFL Alpo...I know EXACTLY what you mean.:D
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« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2004, 01:07:28 PM »
TrackIR has been discussed mostly in the hardware forums. See these threads:
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=125374

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=126929

I had (still have) big problems due to too much body english, I had no idea how much I moved around in a dogfight. Creating large deadbands helped that a lot. I also slowed down the movement pretty drastically and saved a custom profile. I posted my AH2 profile in one thread over there in the hardware forum a while back.

Hitech, I have used the snap view, and have a key on the cougar that swaps it from pan to snap and back again. I generally find the snap to be less disorienting than the pan, but also a little less immersive/natural. For gunnery I have a KP8 mapped that seems to over-ride the TIR movement and lock the gunsite view down tight while pressed.

I use the TIR a great deal in the MA, but if I ever get in deep with multiple cons I am at a disadvantage versus my hats. This is not the fault of the device, it is that I have been using hats for views for nearly 15 years. Some habits are hard to break.

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« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2004, 01:42:49 PM »
I'm using the pan mode. Snap is the same as the hat switch so there's no need. I love pan for attack runs scanning the ground for GV's outside of the snap views.

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« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2004, 01:54:58 PM »
Edbert, thanks.  I will try that.:aok
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« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2004, 02:46:15 PM »
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« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2004, 03:05:16 PM »
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How do you wear your "dots"  :)

I got the hat, the dot is sewn into the bill, there's a second larger 'dot' on the back but my head is large enough to have it not be centered (since it is on the adjustment band).

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« Reply #22 on: August 26, 2004, 04:44:06 PM »
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How many track ir users have tried the snap instead of pan mode?


I use snap mode. It helps in transitioning from using hat switches. Maybe as I become more confy with TrackIR I'll switch to pan.
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« Reply #23 on: August 26, 2004, 04:57:38 PM »
I have tried  snap as well. but prefer the pan because i can always have what i'm looking at right in the center of the screen. its good for zooming all the way in on something. plus it just seems more natural to me.

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« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2004, 06:03:10 PM »
i use pan all the time now, used snap to get used to it on first day.  I had a heck of a time keeping my head steady but after i set the deadband on "agressive" it gave me a nice smooth forward view that i can gun with very well and not have alot of jumping around. as you move to the 6 view the response is much quicker so you dont have to move so much. I think the key to not haveing too much jumping around on the screen is to move your body like wotan said, for the views past 30 degrees so you dont tweak your head, and for fine movements you can use your head, gunnery ectra.  all in all i have found i can take on alot more cons, at least keep track of them in a large dogfight, i dont see how turning snap on in this situation would help, tho i do look like im getting shocked by electricity when im in a dogfight:)  it makes it that more fun and that more realistic.

i deleted my snap views form hat and have forward hat as pan mode, left is center, and back is the strafe head position mode.   as far as using the center button, i only use this if i move my position in my seat or freak out and lose my orientaion, aka body english as bullets ping me :) tir doesnt really lose calibraiton from what i have seen, with the native support at lest.

its kinda cool i actually used to live in corvallis oregon where track ir is made, i think i saw an add for beta testers in the newspaper once, shoulda jumped on that lol.

all in all i really stand behind track ir and have become a wondering sailsman for it. i think its the best interface we have so far since the advent of the joystick for sim games.

 ok ive done my tir shpeel.   thanks again for getting it going in ah2 htc!

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« Reply #25 on: August 27, 2004, 05:31:04 AM »
I dont actually use either of them in combat :) Instead I use the move mode together with stick hat. Using hat is still too stronly in my spine but the move mode is a great addition for peeking around the cockpit frames.

In transition flights I have tried both snap and pan. Sometimes pan mode makes me feel nauseous if I am maneuvering the plane quick or hard.

So.. I guess I use them all :) ... but the move mode rules!


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« Reply #26 on: August 27, 2004, 05:37:57 AM »
How much is this track IR thing?Seems fun.

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« Reply #27 on: August 27, 2004, 05:38:00 AM »
How much is this track IR thing?Seems fun.

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« Reply #28 on: August 27, 2004, 05:49:37 AM »
About US$130 for the enhanced version.
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« Reply #29 on: August 27, 2004, 05:51:16 AM »
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About US$130 for the enhanced version.
LOL I will pass for a couple of months. I liek using the keyboard anyway. :P