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Offline Toad

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« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2001, 11:23:00 PM »
RAM:"matched with a plane that doesnt have the serious torque that killed ensigns in WWII

From:  http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum9/HTML/001120.html

"To make it VERY Clear. So called torque what RAM is reffering to, Realy he's talking about vortex effects,We have NOT tuned down any prop effect for playablity.
Just so everyone knows the effects from the prop. They are 5
1. Vortex / slipstream
2. Gyroscopic
3. Torque.
4. PFactor.
5. Thrust

We model all 5.

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 http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum9/HTML/001120.html

RAM said.
I see the torque tuning down as a redundant measure for playability.

Totaly incorect RAM.

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 http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum9/HTML/001231.html

"From "The Jolly Rogers" by Tom Blackburn, Chapter 6:
"The long awaited word arrived in mid-February (1943)-one new F4U-1 Corsair fighter was ready for delivery at Floyd Bennett Field, New York...I was still clutching the pilot's handbook when we landed so I could get right down to the business of cockpit familiarization and checkout.

...I went through a last-minute cockpit scan and pushed the throttle forward to the stop as I began to roll. Habits die hard; I applied full right rudder, a must in the Wildcat. A snowbank on the right side of the runway loomed large, and the my overcorrection threatened to plow the Corsair in to the left-hand snowbank.

(Later in the same chapter) "VF-17 got through carrier qualifications with no personnel casualties. We busted a lot of wheels, blew a lot of tires, and totaled several of our airplanes, but everyone eventually make his five qualifying landings aboard Charger....Moreover, Charger hardly qualified as a carrier; that spitkit rarely produced the 25 knots of relative wind over her flight deck that was considered the standard minimum for safe landing operations.

Even recognizing the remarkable performance of my grass-green tyros - they kept their cool and drove like old hands - most of the credit for our zero casualty rate must go to Catwalk Cummings. An LSO is not unlike a golf pro who can see what a student is duing right or wrong and who can coach a fledgling into fully utilizing his abilities."

But what does Blacburn know anyway? He was just the skipper of the second Navy squadron to carrier qual in the F4U."


Note that Blackburn never mentions problems taking off from Charger. It's the landings that were problematic. Charger was a barely capable Corsair carrier at best.

But hey, don't let reality intrude.    




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« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2001, 01:54:00 AM »
It ain't the plane that's Dweeb, it's the pilot.

I am Dweeb in any plane I fly.

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« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2001, 05:34:00 AM »
SOB, damit... you're right... Now that I've went back and re-read your post... I get the tone. Sorry...

Think I'm developing a short fuze... All I have to hear is a few whines about overmodeled aircraft, undermodeled aircraft, CHog lasers, etc. and the little man in my head starts screaming... "SHUT UP! SHUT UP! FOR THE LOVE OF GAWD SHUT UP!"

Of course, the kinder gentler more rational Sandman appreciates that if you whine long enough, if you run a subject into the ground over and over again, if you never stop, never relent, stay true and continue your quest for the perfect sim that truely replicates the thrill and terror of aerial combat, all the while pissing and moaning about the sim that you have, one day you will be rewarded.

Hah! Don't count on it.




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« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2001, 07:54:00 AM »
How about the M3 dweeb?

I was in a M3 just letting my guys out when another M3 rolled up(from the same side) and shot my troops so he could let his out and get the capture.

That is the ultimate dweeb in my book.
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« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2001, 08:40:00 AM »
Oh yeah, I've found some Lancaster running dweebs as well. They didnt want to come back and fight my C.205. Amazing. This community is deteriorating, definitely.
"And one of the finest aircraft I ever flew was the Macchi C.205. Oh, beautiful. And here you had the perfect combination of italian styling and german engineering .... it really was a delight to fly ... and we did tests on it and were most impressed." - Captain Eric Brown

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« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2001, 03:28:00 PM »
 
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I dont have the same problem with the typhoon because ,although it has not the torque that is historically awarded to have, it is much difficult to fly

Hmmmmm.....last time I flew the Typhoon it had 4 hispanos just like the C-Hog.  So my question RAM is why not "blackball" both airplanes??

You put your two cents in and more every chance you get and I'm sick of the squeaking that you have been doing.  I can't read this BB without a person whining about the C-hog.  The plane is NO MORE POWERFUL than the Typhoon and the Typhoon is faster.  Why not shut the hell up and let Hitech and Pyro work on the game and not about some "Big Blue Brick".  And you can always quit again......but please after you quit stop posting on the BB.

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« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2001, 03:37:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by Toad:

...I went through a last-minute cockpit scan and pushed the throttle forward to the stop as I began to roll. Habits die hard; I applied full right rudder, a must in the Wildcat. A snowbank on the right side of the runway loomed large, and the my overcorrection threatened to plow the Corsair in to the left-hand snowbank.
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Toad, are you sure this guy new what he was talking about? Afterall he called an F4U a wildcat. :-)
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« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2001, 03:48:00 PM »
Sorry missed the smilie

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« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2001, 04:00:00 PM »
HO Dweeb

Surprising that it had not yet been mentioned outside of the C-47 being called an HO Dweeb story.

SW,
No, he said he was used to the Wildcat and thus did the wrong thing, e.g. "old habits dies hard".  He never called the F4U a Wildcat.

skernsk,
Yes, at low altitude the Tiffie is faster, but the F4U-1C has far more ammo, can always roll faster, turns tighter, has greater fuel endurance and is faster at altitude.
I love how guys will completely ignore the advantages of their favorite ride, or of the ride they are defending, and point out how their target od scorn is better in one or two ways.  Then they seem to sit back as if they have proven how inferior their kite is.

It seems pretty well accepted that, all things considered, the two best all around MA fighters in AH are the F4U-1C and N1K2.  I don't fly the F4U-1C, but I do fly the N1K2 now and then.

Tell the truth, I kinda like it that a Japanese kite is getting that kind of attention.  People don't respect the capabilities of Japanese fighters enough I think.  It also nicely put lie to the LW fans complaints that the Axis didn't have a competetive figher.  They were obviously assuming that any competetive Axis fighter would be German.  Assumptions lead to surprise.

BTW, Tiffies roll rate is too fast.  HTC said they'd look at it in the future.  They said the same thing about the N1K2's e retention, or lack of energy bleed in turns(whichever way you want to look at it).

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« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2001, 04:06:00 PM »
The nikki is kinda like strapping a v8 onto a go-kart.  


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« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2001, 04:07:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by skernsk:
Hmmmmm.....last time I flew the Typhoon it had 4 hispanos just like the C-Hog.  So my question RAM is why not "blackball" both airplanes??

Because while the typhoon averages 3% of the MA kills, the Chog averages 20%. Because the Chog is far more common than any other plane, save the n1k2, while the Typhoon is quite a rare sight on the main arena.

And lastly, but not the least, because 200 Chogs were built in WWII, and they saw very limited service, while the Dhogs were built massivelly and saw widespread service. In AH the Chog is far FAR more common than the Dhog. Unhistorical. Rests immersion.

Put those reasons in the order you want, and try to assimilate them. You seem quite slow to process all the things avobe written, because I have repeated them several times yet.

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« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2001, 04:08:00 PM »
Ah musta misread it, thnx Karnak.
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« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2001, 04:22:00 PM »
Jeez Toad!  Why do you have to go and ruin the party by using reality and quite possibly the devil itself, fact!

Spoilsport

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« Reply #28 on: February 12, 2001, 04:26:00 PM »
Is there any way to tell how many sorties a plane has?

It would be interesting to see how the numbers match up. Yes, I have more kills in a CHog then in a 109, but I have sortied more in the 109.

I would think this would go for others, too. Kill numbers might not be as accurate as one might think...

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« Reply #29 on: February 12, 2001, 04:30:00 PM »
I have no problem killing the chog.
In fact, its an easy kill on my P-38. Chog pilots are overconfident.
I actually seek out chogs cause they are easier killes than tiffies.

The only times in memory that Ive been killed by chogs is in vulchs or AFK deaths.

I think some people try to compensate for their lack of piloting skills by blaming the plane the enemy flies.

If I have no problem killing chogs in the P38, and I am not the greatest ace, then I see no reason to whine.
I still have problems with nikis sometimes, but Its nothing I cant overcome with smart fighting.


I have no problem with the current planeset. When I die, I will blame my stupidity, or the stupid ultra flaks the kill me at 30k in one shot