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Offline SlapShot

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« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2004, 12:26:47 PM »
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The ENY limit offers VERY little to a country in the situation you describe. Little if anything will. Stopping the LA7 and P-51D certainly will not.

This is not about stopping a gang reset, nothing will do that if they are determined. This is about leveling the plane vs plane field when numbers are not level. Or do you feel perk rides are not as much better than the LA7 and the P-51D as the LA7 and the P-51D are better than planes with an ENY much lower?

The object was NOT the 262, but the other planes. It SHOULD make just as much difference as the ENY limit, provided the perk planes are really as much an advantage as they are purported to be and players take advantage of it. Players who seem to NEED the advantages provided by the LA7 and the P-51D should really get some help with free perk planes. And provided the country in question is not beyond hope and help, they can up their free or reduced cost perk planes a sector or two back and get speed and altitude. Just as much if not more an advatage as not seeing the P-51D and LA7, along with the Spit IX. Basicly, 20 ENY points is 20 ENY points, no matter how you go about getting the difference. The pilot will make or break the rest of the difference, regardless of the system.

The 262 is very little to me period. Unless I'm already engaged or damaged, or otherwise at a serious disadvantage, the 262 is mostly annoying, unless flown by an expert. Again, this is not about the 262.


I was only referencing the planes that you used in yout post. Again, the 262 is no bargain for FREE, even if you have 10-15 bases left, and the 234 is as useless as boobs on a bull.

There is nothing worse that being outnumbered AND to look up in the sky and all you see are P-51s and La-7s. That is the exact scenario that could be seen, day in and day out prior to the ENY disabler. I don't see it that way much anymore.
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« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2004, 12:29:43 PM »
So your saying, make the number imbalance even worse twitchy?

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« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2004, 12:39:08 PM »
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So your saying, make the number imbalance even worse twitchy?

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It Don't matter what I say Hitech, it will be flaming. :mad:
Here let me do it for you...

Edit for flame.
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« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2004, 12:40:01 PM »
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Originally posted by twitchy
Lets get rid of the ENY rubbish, if your outnumbered and can't play the game that way, log off adn come back when the numbers readjust. Folks, sometimes the enemy has superior numbers. Telling us what planes we can fly is not solving anything, actually its ticking alot of us off. Jesus are the perk multipliers not enough (there are people getting 160 perks for a single kill now)?! When Germany invaded Russia, Germany was outnumbered, did they stop because of that? Was there some great omnipotent source that stepped in and forced the russians to fight in donkey carts? No, they sucked it up and fought till germany was exhausted and others stepped in. War is hell, war sims are hell sometimes too. If you are outnumbered, IMO that is tough, sometimes the other teams get outnumbered too. Get over it in other words, lets quit ruining everyone elses game play cause you don't like the #'s. They balance out in time any way, they always have, they always will. Rooks have numbers one night, knights have them the next. The next time I have to defend a base against cheap tigers in a m8, I'll probably log off.


twitchy ...

Perk multipliers MEAN SQUAT !!! Its been in place for how long ? ... and what exactly did it accomplish ? ... NOTHING.

Spare us the WW II examples ... it won't wash. Read my sig for HT thoughts on AH War. That is where the mindset has to go.

Conversly ... If you are over-numbered, IMO that is tough, you'll just have to find a new ride. How does that sound ? I thought so. As long as YOUR gameplay is not ruined, then all is OK ?

I would make GVs exempt from the ENY disabler. They are not such a determining force as the planes are.

twitchy ... I have said this before ... The ENY disabler needs to be worked on/tweaked so that it is not as harsh as it is at the moment, but its foundation is sound.

Honestly, I don't want to go back to the way it was because that was not fun for some, nor do I want it to continue the way it is currently, because its not fun for some. I would like to see it built upon to make it palatable for all.
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« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2004, 12:57:39 PM »
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« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2004, 01:07:02 PM »
Edit for flame

Sorry.
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« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2004, 01:13:16 PM »
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Uh no I said,

Originally posted by twitchy
Lets get rid of the ENY rubbish, if your outnumbered and can't play the game that way, log off adn come back when the numbers readjust.

That is what you typed.  What you meant was "Quit the game or join the horde."

You see, after logging in every night for a week and finding the side I fly for pounded down to a few fields that were capped it really doesn't matter anymore.  This was before the plane limiter.  I have not played much since then due to time constraints and now being without an internet connection after my move.

Your suggestion is worthless because it isn't a solution.  You offer no way to resolve a sequence of events where a player is not able to log on to a reasonably balanced MA for a week.  And if it can happen for a week it can happen for longer periods of time.

Because of that you basically suggested that I join the horde or pay for a product I cannot use reliably.
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« Reply #22 on: August 31, 2004, 03:43:03 PM »
I did post a reply but I can't say anything on the BB without being edited, so have at me.
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« Reply #23 on: August 31, 2004, 06:20:43 PM »
twitchy read rule number 4 a few times. Start showing some respect for others, and your post might not get delted.
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« Reply #24 on: August 31, 2004, 07:03:23 PM »
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If this is indeed true, shouldn't the ENY system handicap BOTH larger countries? Or does it already?

To answer the original question, yes it does punish both countries.  The benchmark is the roster of the smallest country.  Both larger countries are measured aginst that, and penalized accordingly.
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« Reply #25 on: August 31, 2004, 08:46:17 PM »
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« Reply #26 on: August 31, 2004, 09:32:59 PM »
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« Reply #27 on: August 31, 2004, 09:56:23 PM »
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« Reply #28 on: August 31, 2004, 09:59:56 PM »
here we go again...:rolleyes:
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« Reply #29 on: August 31, 2004, 11:37:04 PM »
someone's board permissions are going bye bye.. registered this month this year?

didnt skuzzy just today say something about shades accounts?

sry dont mean to bait someone... justa astounds me the lack of consideration
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