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Offline demaw1

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Should America deny military service to Muslims?
« on: September 05, 2004, 07:44:57 PM »
The lastest muslim to give documents to the enemy was a coverted American named Anderson from the 81st wash. nat.gar.

 He gave troop strenths and movements to the enemy. Last week it was a navy muslim that gave ship positions and movements to the enemy.

  The lower grade men/women are beginning to not want muslims in the field.

 What should be done ?

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« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2004, 07:49:49 PM »
What are your figures for muslims serving honorably in the military?  I know three converted muslims that serve quite honorably.

Keep in mind that the day we start to discriminate based on color or creed, is the day we stop being America.
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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2004, 07:52:29 PM »
I remember it was the second or first night of the ar with Iraq II. When a muslim Army soldier threw a gernade or two into a officers tent killing a few. Dont mind Muslims in the military, but background checks should be done on ALL personel.
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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2004, 07:58:08 PM »
No.
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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2004, 08:07:04 PM »
Undecided..............

Offline demaw1

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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2004, 08:14:22 PM »
Bodhi..

 Interesting thought, Why doesnt America have a right to defend our 18/20 year olds being shot in the back?  Of course there are those that honorably serve, but at what cost. When would you ,Bodhi, decide enough have been killed or wounded before you would agree to hurt someones feelings?

 I hadnt decided what side I was on until today.

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« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2004, 08:24:14 PM »
heck no. where are we going to get pretrained arabic speakers that can blend in as a natural from part of middle east? where are we going to get humint assets that can work in middle east? espionage risk is why background investigations and clearance exist. for every traitor you read about in the papers theres a hundred or more guys serving the people of the us with distinction. and the pa guys in middle east that are arabs and muslims work in very dangerous conditions.

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« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2004, 08:41:11 PM »
Silly, dangerous notion. You should be ashamed demaw.

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« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2004, 09:08:09 PM »
Stupidest Idea EVAR

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« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2004, 10:08:39 PM »
I agree with Raub, stupid idea.

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« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2004, 10:28:30 PM »
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Should America deny military service to Muslims?

No.
Where were you with your "rounding up" questions when it was the white guys selling out secrets to the Soviets and Israelis? Using your logic, shouldn't we ban white people from serving in the military?
What's the next question, rounding up all Muslims to internment camps?
I'm with MT as well as others on this...dangerous idea.
Don't punish the whole for what a tiny minority fraction of a "group" does.
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« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2004, 10:37:38 PM »
Since everyone else has covered 'it is morally wrong', I'll focus on another aspect:

It would be an indefensible policy.

The first time we're engaged in hostilities with the EU, then you would either have to expel all people of european descent.  If we fight against a country in Africa, you'd need to remove all blacks.  

Q:'That's different, aren't you talking race and not religion?'
A: Legally, this country has defined both as equal under the law.  All discrimination legislation covers both religion and race interchangably.  'But isn't religion is purely a matter of choice?'  Sure, in theory, but what real choice do children raised in a religious household have?  Statistically, the vast majority identify with the religion they are raised with, even if they choose not to actively worship as adults.

With this said, I suggest that most people have a strong pre-disposition to the religion of their family, to such an extent that discriminating on that basis is as flawed as discriminating on race.
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« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2004, 11:01:17 PM »
Of course the far right and the NeoCons would LOVE IT. Just 1 little thing standing in their way:
Bill of Rights
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

All you guys thinking that ALL MUSLIMS are the problem are nuts. If you follow your theory, you should be out hunting down those cold blooded murdering CHRISTIANS. Guess everyone forgot CHRISTIAN terrorists blew up the Murrah Building in OKC. :rolleyes:
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« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2004, 11:02:58 PM »
Off topic
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« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2004, 11:06:28 PM »
I don't see how this is a conservative or liberal issue.  In fact, I don't even see how this is much of an issue at all beyond what demaw tries to make of it.

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