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Offline rpm

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« on: September 08, 2004, 03:25:23 AM »
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More Bush Guard Records Released

By Matt Kelley
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Wednesday, September 8, 2004; 2:55 AM

WASHINGTON -- Months after insisting it could find no more records of President Bush's Air National Guard service, the Defense Department has released more than two dozen pages of files, including Bush's report card for flight training and dates of his flights.

The Pentagon and Bush's campaign have claimed for months that all records detailing his fighter pilot career have been made public, but defense officials acknowledged Tuesday they had found two dozen new records detailing his training and flight logs after the AP sued and submitted new requests under the public records law.

Bush's Vietnam-era service in the Texas Air National Guard has become an issue in the presidential campaign as the candidates spar over who would make the best commander in chief. Supporters of Democratic nominee John Kerry, a decorated Vietnam combat veteran, have criticized Bush for serving stateside in the National Guard. Kerry's Republican critics claim Kerry did not deserve some of his five medals.

"These documents confirm that the president served honorably in the National Guard," White House spokeswoman Claire Buchan said Tuesday night.

Democratic National Committee communications director Jano Cabrera disagreed. "For months George Bush told the nation that all his military records were public," he said. "Now we know why Bush was trying so hard to withhold these records. When his nation asked him to be on call against possible surprise attacks, Bush wasn't there."

The records show his last flight was in April 1972, which is consistent with pay records indicating Bush had a lapse of duty between April and October of that year. Bush has said he had permission to go to Alabama in 1972 to work on an unsuccessful Republican Senate campaign. Bush skipped a required medical exam that cost him his pilot's status in August of that year.

Bush's 2000 campaign suggested the future president skipped his medical exam in part because the F-102A was nearly obsolete. Records show Bush's Texas unit flew the F-102A until 1974 and used the jets as part of an air defense drill during 1972.

A six-month historical record of his 147th Fighter Interceptor Group, also turned over to the AP on Tuesday, shows some of the training Bush missed with his colleagues during that time.

It showed the unit joined a "24-hour active alert mission to safeguard against surprise attack" in the southern United States beginning on Oct. 6, 1972, a mission for which Bush was not present, according to his pay records.

As part of the mission, the 147th kept two F-102A jets -- the same type Bush flew before he was grounded -- on ready alert to be launched within five minutes' warning.

The newly released records do not include any from five categories of documents Bush's commanders had been required to keep in response to the gaps in Bush's training in 1972 and 1973. For example, National Guard commanders were required to perform an investigation whenever any pilot skipped a medical exam and forward the results up the Air Force chain of command. No such documents have surfaced.

Looks like the cleaning crew missed a box.
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« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2004, 05:05:33 AM »
Bush in an electoral landslide... get used to it.
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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2004, 05:09:37 AM »
Oh this is gonna be good.

All I need is a lawnchair and some peanuts...


PS don't bother Skuzzy, I'll 'Off Topic' this post myself within an hour or two ;) :D :aok
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« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2004, 06:01:18 AM »
So.... are we going to get Kerry's records next....?
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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2004, 07:29:02 AM »
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John Kerry, a decorated Vietnam combat veteran,


Washington post, you got a little something on your lip.  Were you giving kerry a Bl...  Nevermind.


I just love how they slip this one in there.
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« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2004, 07:41:02 AM »
Its an AP article! AP reporting as of late has been so liberal slanted as to become suspect... We have lately pulled stories with false info with no retractions apoligizing for the false information. "Example the Bush rally story where the crowd was reported by the AP to Boo when told of Clintons bypass lobatamy surgery" A rerun of the vid proved no booing from the crowd" The AP pulled the story with no retractions-

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« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2004, 07:52:30 AM »
Agreed with IKon.

AP's liberal slant is out of control lately.

It really is obvious.

Anyone notice who filed the FoI request for these particular records....

That's right.

The AP.

But does it really matter?

Not to me. Bush is a proven leader. Kerry is not.
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« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2004, 08:04:30 AM »
In other news Kerry announces latest campaign poster..

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« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2004, 08:07:06 AM »
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Oh this is gonna be good.

All I need is a lawnchair and some peanuts...
 


I'll share my Pastis with you if you give me some peanuts.
ok ?
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« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2004, 08:08:35 AM »
so this is the best the liberals can do for their "october surprise"   that and running the debunked f911 at the rental stores ain't gonna do it.

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« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2004, 08:09:22 AM »
*Yawn*

*Stretch*

*Scratch*

Next.....
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« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2004, 08:22:00 AM »
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Originally posted by 1K0N
Its an AP article! AP reporting as of late has been so liberal slanted as to become suspect... We have lately pulled stories with false info with no retractions apoligizing for the false information. "Example the Bush rally story where the crowd was reported by the AP to Boo when told of Clintons bypass lobatamy surgery" A rerun of the vid proved no booing from the crowd" The AP pulled the story with no retractions-

IKON


When the information isn't to your liking..... blame the source!
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« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2004, 08:23:45 AM »
This is bad news for the Dems!


It showed the unit joined a "24-hour active alert mission to safeguard against surprise attack" in the southern United States beginning on Oct. 6, 1972, a mission for which Bush was not present, according to his pay records.

Bush's lone service in October was outside Texas, presumably with an Alabama unit he had permission to train with in September, October and November 1972



Hmm, now the Dems will have to try a new angle!
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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2004, 08:27:05 AM »
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When the information isn't to your liking..... blame the source!


What do you think our reaction would be if you quoted an article from Al-jazeera.net?
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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2004, 09:35:20 AM »
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What do you think our reaction would be if you quoted an article from Al-jazeera.net?


Depends on what the quote is obviously.. 8)

Good post rpm.. ;)
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