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Offline Eagler

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« Reply #60 on: September 08, 2004, 09:08:09 PM »
guess they have to try to compare 30+ year records ...


God knows they can't run on say the last 10 ...Bush would blow skerry's useless flip flop arse right out of the water...
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« Reply #61 on: September 08, 2004, 09:16:00 PM »
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I don't mean to offend... If I'm full of ****, say so Toad and I'll just delete the whole thing.


Of course you are full of ****. You are a Navy guy. Quod erat demonstrandum.  :)

Fighter pilots, like the people pool from which they are drawn, are a diverse group. Some are the Hollywood version, some are much more quiet, some are bookish even. They are just people and their personalities vary. They share common traits, of course; the things that they need to do the job. There are great ones, good ones, average ones and some poor ones.

In short, I wouldn't generalize any particular thing about them. As far as single seat vs two seaters, you have to remember that it's mostly luck of the draw which you get from the assignment section at HQ. You're rated out of UPT as either fighter qualified or not. If you are, you can get any fighter. It just depends on where they need bodies at that moment. Now, no doubt a single seat guy evolves to a more "self-reliant" profile. After all, they TEACH you to rely on your backseater IF you have one.

I wasn't a fighter pilot, btw. In my class of 55 there were 7 fighters and our jobs were randomly assigned by the "big computer". At the time, they were trying things to see that each command (TAC, MAC, SAC, etc.) had an equal chance to get the good and the average and the bad from each class. They abandoned the random computer system in pretty short order. ;)
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« Reply #62 on: September 08, 2004, 09:25:19 PM »
I work around fighter pilots on a daily basis and have done so for almost 10 years now.  It may be slightly different when it comes to AF, Navy and Marines but typically the pilot not the WSO is actually the brighter of the bunch.  I'm not discrediting the WSOs duties and performance by any means.  It just really depends on the weapons platform.

 In the F-15E Strike Eagle the WSO for the most part is doing alot of the work.  Again though it takes two to get the mission done.  Either way they all do their job and do it well most of the time.  But troubleshooting for maintenance isn't one of their better traits.  Some spend years learning and some think they've spent years learning only to find out they are clueless on how the systems work.

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« Reply #63 on: September 08, 2004, 10:29:07 PM »
there is a reason they call them "swift" boats - LOL
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« Reply #64 on: September 09, 2004, 01:04:12 AM »
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"taking the quote out of the story you left much of the truth out.”

Didn't get it from the Boston Globe.

"We weren't rich"

Hmmm, rich people saying they’re not rich. Compared to what?

Did your family have the bucks to send you to a Swiss boarding school or attend an elite private school in New Hampshire?

Mine sure the hell didn't. Sounds like there’s a bit more cash that Boston bus tokens being swapped back and forth.


Hey if you just want to believe the talking points and Hannity then just say so. But you can find the information as easy as I. Bush was the silver spoon baby.
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« Reply #65 on: September 09, 2004, 01:08:48 AM »
I've been told the F-15E is one helleva fighter if you happen to get a ride on one.

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« Reply #66 on: September 09, 2004, 01:21:05 AM »
Senna a slick F-15E will give you a ride for your life.  About the exact same maneuverability as the C but with extra thrust.  Well that is ofcourse it has PW 229 motors in it.  Either way both birds will make you sick at the hands of a mean pilot.  :lol

I've seen some videos of our birds when they are doing advanced handling checks for the test pilots.  I've got to say these guys are nuts.  And through it all they are as calm as can be.  We even had a crew induce a nasty inverted flat spin.  Problem was they weren't even expecting it.  They came down saying sorry for the over g but we weren't even expecting it to come off like it did.

Nice thing about the F-15 is even at high AOA and trying to induce a flat spin your lucky if it will do it 3 out of 10 tries.  Even walking the rudders off at extreme AOA will majority of the time cause it to depart left or right and never enter the flat spin.  Still think our test pilots are nuts though.