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Offline Suave1

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« on: January 07, 2001, 07:27:00 PM »
Today while in the ma arena I jump an f4u and blow it's wing and tail off . It is tumbling down to the ground as I break off . Then swoops in this guy named Machine in an f4u and blows my would be kill all to hell . I asked him if he saw that it had no wing, then I asked him why then did he do it . His response was basically "yeah so , deal with it" . Is there something wrong with me because I'm bothered by this ?
 I've heard it said a lot that it's a small minority of unsavory characters that foul the community, but I'm beginning to think that it's the nice guys that are the minority .
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« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2001, 08:06:00 PM »
machine is a hella good pilot, maybe you should improve your SA, forget the kill you thought was yours and check you 6

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Offline Suave1

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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2001, 08:15:00 PM »
My SA ? I have to watchout for friendlies now ? Wasn't a comment on his skill .
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Offline Frodo

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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2001, 08:27:00 PM »
Loser you are an idiot and well named.

Suave it happens.The majority of the community are a good bunch.Just ignore the obvious retards.

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Offline Dago

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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2001, 08:39:00 PM »
I agree with 2 things.

1) NO, nobody should try to steal a kill that way.
2) Loser is an idiot and well named.

To bore in and shoot at a plane that has obviously taken a fatal hit is one of the crappiest things a player can do.  Suave, I have only seen this a couple of times, and it really pisses me off when I do.  Believe me, the majority of the guys are good players, and good people. Too bad a few bad attitudes can spoil the game.

In can happen for a player to not realize a plane is going in, but normally when that happens a decent guy will recognize his mistake and apologize.

Focus on the good things, try to ignore the bad.

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Offline SOB

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« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2001, 08:40:00 PM »
Yeah, it sometimes happens...if you just can't stand it, pump enough ammo into your prey that it is certain to be your fodder.  Otherwise, kill just like you currently do, and live with the fact that some people will dive in and steal your kill for whatever reason.  Either way, it was YOU who killed the bandit.  You may lose some points here and there because of it, which can suck now because of perks, but jerks will be jerks.  In my experience most guys will leave it alone if they see it flailing toward the ground  


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« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2001, 08:43:00 PM »
It's best just to let it go... I think we've all had it happen to us before. You called him on it without getting irate (which is good)... but there is no way you can keep him from doing it again if he wants. Won't be very popular with his fellow countrymen though. I have almost done this on accident a few times (it is possible)... and felt horrible about it. It all evens out... I get and occasion kill sitting on a runway miles from any action... just the AH God's evening things out and righting the wrongs.

I almost died laughing once when I shot a bombers wing off... then watched TWO! pilots repeatedly miss while trying to hit it on the way down.
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Offline Maverick

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« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2001, 09:17:00 PM »
Now that there is a real game reason for points (ala the perk system) I have seen it happen more often. You shoot a planes tail off and while it's spinning (sliding) down another pilot dives in and zaps it getting the kill. It ain't uncommon and it's going to become epidemic. Points and perks are going to be the drivers on this one. Wait until the first big perk planes get here. There will be a lot of kill stealing.

And yes the MA is very rude nowadays. It's getting to be very "Simpsonesque"

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Offline Westy

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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2001, 09:17:00 PM »
 Suave, it does happen. Best thing to do is make em POP so there's nothing left. I know that means more ammo so you either have to raise your hit %, hold fire till your close or just realise some folks wil do anything to boost thier own self worth. Like a hyena they'll latch onto someones elses kill.
 
 But some folks do it by accident. I've done it a few times not realising the bogy was spinning down disabled and not trying to just roll out of combat. If I have a chance I always try to apologize to anyone whom I've stolen a kill from. Except for Gadly. I savoured it that time as he just done the same to a squaddie a few minutes prior  

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Offline LePaul

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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2001, 09:59:00 PM »
Suave,

It happens.  I had something similar happen a month ago.  I had a guy smoking and blew his wing off.  As he was freefalling and tumbling to Earth, I kept firing away, trying to make him pop.  One of my own guys was trying to vulch the kill and flew in front of my crosshairs.  Did some damage to him and he got all upset at ME.

Just remember those nature channels where you see the lion with its fresh kill: defend it  

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Offline fscott

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« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2001, 10:34:00 PM »
Suave, the kill system is all screwed up. You can shoot a guy all to pieces yet if one of his buddies kills you before his buddy hits the ground, you lose the kill. At the same time though, a guy can simply be flying close to your ack and he gets wacked by the ack yet you get the kill? Tell me that isn't a screwed up system. I don't know how many times I will have just gotten into my plane in the hanger and I get a kill no sooner thn i start my engine. There's other obvious problems also, not to mention the ol'd "the last guy to ping the bogey gets the kill" problem. Some say its the person who does the most damage. I don't agree with it. It should be that the kill goes to the person who "fatally" wounds the aircraft.  If you shoot off the elevator with 2 pings, then you should get the kill. Period.

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Offline Yeager

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« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2001, 10:39:00 PM »
This is EXACTLY the reason why I gun my target ALL TO HELL, so some friendly dipshit doesnt pop in and STEAL my damned kill.

Its those damned AW guys I tell ya.  In WBs we had a creedo of HONOR  LOL!!!

Hehehe....

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Offline iculus

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« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2001, 10:50:00 PM »
I agree... if something critical (like their rear fuselage!) goes, you should get the kill.

I personally dislike when you are gunning a con, and a country person zooms in between you and the con (into your stream of hot lead!) so you have to cease fire to avoid the kill shooter!  

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Offline Jigster

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« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2001, 11:30:00 PM »
Gawd this happens to me all the time. I prolly have more assists then kills at the momment.

So lately I've left my tracers on and taken a lesson from Chuck Yeager.

Nothin speaks louder then a few rounds over the cockpit yanno?

Loved that about AW and the PNG Status. You could pop one and still get away with it  

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Offline Virage

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« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2001, 11:32:00 PM »
Award the Kill to the player that does the most damage and this problem goes away.  Fighter Ace once had the same problem.  This turns what was once a problem into a positive.  Players started thanking one another for "...finishing him for me"!

I would also like to point out that this type of behavior doesn't "just happen".
Let's not be so quick to dismiss the actions of players like MACHINE that are disruptive and unsportsmanlike.  MACHINE made a conscious choice to act the way he did.  Will there always be jerks?  Yes.  Does the community have to suffer their actions in silence?  Definitely not.
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