Well, I've only been flying the jug since version 1.08, so I guess I just suck. If a 109 will enter a rolling scissor fight starting from high speed I'll beat it by stepping on the breaks, pulling out the flaps, opening the canopy and flaping my hands while rolling. That is possible as long as we have speed to start with and we dont turn much.
I'm pretty sure you are aware of the standard procedures in rolling scissors bozon. The basic aim of this maneuver, is to overshoot the enemy and evade bullets by barrel rolling.
According to the danger levels, a pilot may have to pull a wider and/or slower barrel roll, with harsher and more sharper angle in whipping the nose around by rudder assists.
The problem is, assuming co-E conditions, at least to the extent of my own skills pitted against all kinds of P-47 pilots from noobs to experts, no 109G in AH2 can pull enough angle, whip the nose, slow down, and pull off a barrel roll at the same time.
The P-47s can do that. So can the P-51s. The 109G cannot.
If we start slow or get into a sustained circle fight, I will die if the 109 pilot is of any worth.
I used to think so, too. Not anymore in AH2. For about two circles the 109 may stay with a P-47D. Then comes the really low speed, harsh maneuvering phase, under 200mph.
At these speeds as you know, turning a tighter radius and keeping it there is often more important than the turning speed or the turn rate itself.
The P-47 can keep the harsh AoA, assisted by flaps and rudders. It slow, but it chugs on, keeping its nose up like a cobra. The 109G cannot. If I stay above 200mph, my turn radius is too wide so I cannot follow the turn. But if I drop my own speed to use my own flaps, the plane suddenly turns into a pig.
The plane just reached its point where it could start using its own flaps - which is about 90mph higher than the stall speed. I'm pulling only about 15% of the stick at 180mph, first notch of flaps down and the plane starts to snaproll and shake already. While destabilized the nose drops down, the plane accelerates, and the flaps retract. I organize things out pull the nose up again, kick rudder and engage flaps again - by this time I've lost about 30 degrees amount of ground in the turn fight.
Eventually, the P-47 wins.
Okay, I'm not a hot-shot LW fighter like Nath or Urchin or Grunherz. But as much, I don't always face the best of the P-47 pilots neither. Dear lord HT, is outturning a P-47 supposed to be this hard in a Bf109G?
I flew the G2 alot during the beta. it felt great when turning. the slats created some instability while deploying though. I don't know if that was fixed.
Then you'd remember the weird stalls bozon - something which people referred to as "aileron reversals" or something. The sort where you arrive at stall, and the plane would snap roll to one direction. Applying ailerons to stop it would cause the plane to snaproll into the other direction.. and consequentially the plane would rock around in its roll axis left and right, as it augers.
Well, I don't see that happening in P-47s or P-51s anymore, but the 109s and 190s still have it. Exactly same behavior with the C.202 and the C.205.
