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« Reply #30 on: September 13, 2004, 09:45:13 PM »
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Actually Bush's invasion of Iraq was the best xmas pressent OBL and his followers could of ever wished for. I'm sure they would love to see Bush get another 4 years stir up more hatered in the middle east in the process.



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Absolutely right, because 9/11 was the result of Bush stirring up trouble in the ME, right?

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« Reply #31 on: September 13, 2004, 10:00:16 PM »
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Absolutely right, because 9/11 was the result of Bush stirring up trouble in the ME, right?
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in reality it is because we are backing the Islreali's.

We talked about this exact thing in world history today (which btw is also current events)
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« Reply #32 on: September 14, 2004, 12:47:24 AM »
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Absolutely right, because 9/11 was the result of Bush stirring up trouble in the ME, right?



No, but every US president for years has stirred up trouble and hatred in the middle east. They've all thought at one time or another they have the answers which never turns out to be so. This one has just created a bigger mess then the others is all.



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« Reply #33 on: September 14, 2004, 12:51:48 AM »
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No, but every US president for years has stirred up trouble and hatred in the middle east. They've all thought at one time or another they have the answers which never turns out to be so. This one has just created a bigger mess then the others is all.



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What mess have we "created" in the middle east?

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« Reply #34 on: September 14, 2004, 10:17:44 AM »
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What mess have we "created" in the middle east?



Shall we start on the most recent and work our way back?



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« Reply #35 on: September 14, 2004, 11:52:16 AM »
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in reality it is because we are backing the Islreali's.


Skull OMG you fool! Don't believe this crap holy cow young man!   Open your eyes...  How many conflicts in the world are raging right now that are muslims against someone else...take Kashmir or Chechneya for example... can these be blamed on our support of Israel?  No way in hell.  Neither can 9/11.  If there was any legitimate "reason" we were attacked it would have A LOT more to do with our "occupation" of the land of the two holy cities (Mecca and Medina) than it would about Israel.  

And I quote directly from OBL's declaration of war against the US;
"The latest and greatest of these aggressions, incurred by the Muslims since the death of the Prophet (Allah's blessings and salutaions on him) is the occupation of the land of the two Holy Places the foundation of the house of Islam, the place of the revelation the source of the message and the place of the noble Ka'ba, the Qiblah of all Muslims by the armies of the American Crusaders and their allies."

He does go on to mention Isreal, but not more than as a collaboration of Zionism and the West to hold the Muslim world in the dark, but he does not differentiate between the two.  Israel and the US are seen as one and the same, not as separate entities.  The last straw for Bin Laden was the Saudi's allowing our troops to be stationed in the Arabian Peninsula during the first Gulf War.  If it was our support of Isreal that triggered 9/11, don't you think Bin Laden and Al Quaeda would have had it out for us before that?  They didn't.  This statement was written in 1996.  Take that back to your ignorant history teacher that just takes his/her lessons straight from the textbook without doing and real research.  

I was a history major in college Skull, and I have frequently gone back to look at textbooks used in junior high and high school and have been absolutely SHOCKED at how far off the truth they are.  Revisionist and appologist history is unfortuantely alive and well in this counrty.  I actually read what you were told in a textbook I picked up about 6 months after 9/11.  At a time when our government still wasn't clear on what happened, do you think some egghead writing this text right after the fact with probably little other expertise than his contempt for America knew what the hell he was talking about?  Gimme a break!!! WAKE UP!  :mad:

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« Reply #36 on: September 14, 2004, 12:31:32 PM »
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DING!!!! a winner

see what happens when I play devils advocate, some of you get all worked up and post nonsense. RedNeck philosophy.

now ask me my personel opinion and you just might get something different then what you'd expect.

2 sides to every coin...


right i get it now. it was all some master reverse psychology plan using your superior brain to teach little ol me a lesson. it wasnt you showing what a true close minded jerk you really are and getting caught before you could edit. pardon me if i go with option number two based on everything else youve ever typed. i do find it funny that youd errantly accuse someone ELSE of "getting all worked up and posting nonsense". heres a clue for as you like to put it "your little mind". i was quoting you because you said something so stupid i could not resist giving you a gag attack with it. "redneck philosophy"? what in the world does that mean? i couldnt ride a horse to save my life. :)

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« Reply #37 on: September 14, 2004, 12:38:53 PM »
Yet another American believing they are the original terrorist victim. It seems the lack of knowledge about history is becoming a norm in the Western world.
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« Reply #38 on: September 14, 2004, 02:53:07 PM »
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Why do you say that?


Perhaps hes trying to say that OBL wants a worthy opponent in the whitehouse.. lmao    :rofl

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« Reply #39 on: September 14, 2004, 02:54:39 PM »
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What mess have we "created" in the middle east?


We let the problem fester.

Now were correcting that error.

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« Reply #40 on: September 14, 2004, 04:00:15 PM »
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right i get it now. it was all some master reverse psychology plan using your superior brain to teach little ol me a lesson. it wasnt you showing what a true close minded jerk you really are and getting caught before you could edit. pardon me if i go with option number two based on everything else youve ever typed. i do find it funny that youd errantly accuse someone ELSE of "getting all worked up and posting nonsense". heres a clue for as you like to put it "your little mind". i was quoting you because you said something so stupid i could not resist giving you a gag attack with it. "redneck philosophy"? what in the world does that mean? i couldnt ride a horse to save my life. :)


woow, I mean closed minded jerk, now that was a good one, especially coming from an American.(insert sarcastic roll eyes cartoon)

And please put some spaces in between your sentences, I don't care about mistakes, but I do care about hurtin my eyes:D

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« Reply #41 on: September 14, 2004, 04:17:26 PM »
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It seems the lack of knowledge about history is becoming a norm in the Western world.


Well, heck. Who needs that dusty old history stuff anyway?

After all,

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You have to deal with the current situation, not historical injustice.


So why bother? Just learn the current situation and solve away.

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« Reply #42 on: September 14, 2004, 05:06:32 PM »
Next stop, the Co-Dominium!

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« Reply #43 on: September 14, 2004, 05:48:27 PM »
Stang for that reason they just hate us even more.  That is why we out of all people who back isreal got attack.  1+1=2 reasons.  butr the big one is backing isreal.
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« Reply #44 on: September 14, 2004, 07:07:19 PM »
Skull, absolutely not.  And i want to knwo who told you and WHY they think so... in their ignorant bliss...