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Offline Sandman

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« Reply #60 on: September 16, 2004, 04:12:06 PM »
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yep...

Why anyobdy would bother to vote this year with these candidates is beyond me...

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Civic duty?
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« Reply #61 on: September 16, 2004, 04:15:27 PM »
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Civic duty?


You mean going through the motions?

I'm just not bit enthusiastic to vote for the lesser of two bad choices, sorry it just doesnt do anything for me..

Where are the serious adults in government? Where are the real leaders?
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« Reply #62 on: September 16, 2004, 04:25:02 PM »
Rationalize all you want, but if you don't participate, you get the government you deserve. I doubt that the solution to this circus is less voters. It's more.
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« Reply #63 on: September 16, 2004, 04:29:39 PM »
Lazy sensational journalism at it's finest, unless you consider the roll over in the months leading up to the invasion of Iraq. That showcased about the same level of ineptitude with the exception of some like Helen Thomas.

These guys aren't "liberal" media, they're just overpaid corporate hacks.

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« Reply #64 on: September 16, 2004, 04:32:25 PM »
Lets see, I live in California.

I vote for Bush, nothing changes.

I vote for Kerry, nothing changes.
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« Reply #65 on: September 16, 2004, 04:42:28 PM »
To honor the sacrifice of people that gave their life so that you could excercise your right to vote?

Don't even answer Grun. It REALLY P.O.'s me that you take that stance.

I mean REALLY
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« Reply #66 on: September 16, 2004, 04:46:31 PM »
I'd love to vote. Heck, I come from a country where we had much more limited rights..

But what about the responsibilty of these candidates and these campaigns to be serious.

And what do we get?  

You know the answer to that.
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« Reply #67 on: September 16, 2004, 04:46:46 PM »
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To honor the sacrifice of people that gave their life so that you could excercise your right to vote?

Don't even answer Grun. It REALLY P.O.'s me that you take that stance.

I mean REALLY


Yeah..what Toad said!!:mad:
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« Reply #68 on: September 16, 2004, 05:12:32 PM »
I asked you not to answer because you just tick me off to an even greater degree.

You can always write in someone you think would be good for the job.

There are OTHER races besides just the Presidential that you can find someone to support.

There are surely local issues on the ballot upon which you have an opinion.

Get yer sorry butt to the polls. You owe that to guys that shall rest forever at Yorktown, Gettysburg, and many other places in Europe, Asia and the Middle East.

All I have to say about it, I guess.
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« Reply #69 on: September 16, 2004, 05:18:27 PM »
In cali the other races are more important Grun, getting rid of Boxer would be a good thing.
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« Reply #70 on: September 16, 2004, 05:20:22 PM »
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In cali the other races are more important Grun, getting rid of Boxer would be a good thing.


Boxer..you mean Joe Boxer?:)
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« Reply #71 on: September 16, 2004, 05:49:14 PM »
Grun,
Then stay out of the political threads.

You have the ability to vote and won't.  That is pure bull.

I'm writing in.  I'm also voting on the local issues that affect me.

As Tip O'Neil once said "All politics are local."  

He's spot on, and you're wasting bandwith in political threads if you don't exercise your right to vote, period.   And don't compare yourself to folks outside the US who participate in US Political threads here.  You are different because you can vote here.

Answering with what about the candidates responsiblity to us is a pure cop-out on not voting.
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« Reply #72 on: September 16, 2004, 06:02:41 PM »
Its Grun's right to abstain.
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« Reply #73 on: September 16, 2004, 06:15:48 PM »
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Its Grun's right to abstain.


It may be his right to abstain..However, if thats the case he has no say in politics. You can't ***** about something if you won't take part in it.
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« Reply #74 on: September 16, 2004, 06:18:00 PM »
The right to vote is the ultimate form of self expression and free speech. The right not to vote is also a right of self expression and free speech.

Candidates ought to earn your vote not take it for granted. These two current tards haven't shown me anything that would give a reason to vote for them. I didn’t vote for GWB last time and there's no way in hell this time. Kerry is out of the question as well.

Any vote that goes to the loser is wasted, it means nothing.

Grun could write in some one or vote for a candidate that has no way of winning or he can refuse to participate until such time a candidate comes a long and earns his vote.

One could argue that those people who don’t participate present on opening for another party to step in and fill the void.

Neither the Dem's nor the Rep's have earned my vote. Its well with in my rights not to give my vote to some I feel doesn't deserve it. By doing so I certainly am not giving up any right and will speak out on any political matter I see fit.

It’s as American as Apple pie...

more so then shaming some into voting for some one they wouldn't even allow in their house for dinner.
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