Author Topic: AH II Freezes at startup (Read 2009 times)

madness · « **on:** September 16, 2004, 06:35:46 PM »

Just installed latest Service packs, have latest vid card drivers and sound card drivers. MY PC completley locks up when I start AH II at a white screen. NO CTD it locks up completley and I have to shut it down. I can run the ah film viewer fine.

Specs: Win XP Pro, Geforce 3 64mb, Athlon 900 mhz cpu, 512 mb ram, dx 9.0c.

Any help will be greatly appreciated!

madness · « **Reply #1 on:** September 16, 2004, 06:56:24 PM »

Ok just rolled by drivers to stock ones for my vid card. Now it doesn't freeze but it CTD's back to desktop. Anyone know how to fix this???

madness · « **Reply #2 on:** September 16, 2004, 09:45:16 PM »

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System Information
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Time of this report: 9/16/2004, 19:42:06
Machine name: HOME
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) (2600.xpclnt_qfe.021108-2107)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: VIA Technologies, Inc.
System Model: VT8363
BIOS: Award Modular BIOS v6.00PGN
Processor: AMD Duron(tm) Processor, ~1.0GHz
Memory: 512MB RAM
Page File: 144MB used, 1105MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: /Silent
DxDiag Version: 5.03.0001.0904 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Music Tab: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce3
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce3
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0200&SUBSYS_001B1545&REV_A3
Display Memory: 64.0 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (75Hz)
Monitor: NEC MultiSync M500
Monitor Max Res: 1280,1024
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.5672 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 3/24/2004 10:04:00, 4274560 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
Mini VDD Date: 3/24/2004 10:04:00, 1895648 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4140-11CF-DD60-112002C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0200
SubSys ID: 0x001B1545
Revision ID: 0x00A3
Revision ID: 0x00A3
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_B ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D
Deinterlace Caps: {212DC722-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{212DC723-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_MedianFilteri ng
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
{212DC722-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{212DC723-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_MedianFilteri ng
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
{212DC722-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x32315659) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{212DC723-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x32315659) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_MedianFilteri ng
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x32315659) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
{212DC722-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{212DC723-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_MedianFilteri ng
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run

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Sound Devices
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Description: ESS Allegro (emulated)
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_125D&DEV_1988&SUBSYS_1988125D&REV_10
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: Emulated
Driver Name:
Driver Version:
Driver Attributes:
WHQL Logo'd:
Date and Size:
Other Files:
Driver Provider: ESS Technology, Inc.
HW Accel Level: Emulation Only
Cap Flags: 0x2F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 100000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result: Not run

Description: VIA Audio (WAVE) (emulated)
Default Sound Playback: No
Default Voice Playback: No
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3058&SUBSYS_30581106&REV_20
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: Emulated
Driver Name:
Driver Version:
Driver Attributes:
WHQL Logo'd:
Date and Size:
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Microsoft
HW Accel Level: Emulation Only
Cap Flags: 0x2F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 100000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result: Not run

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Sound Capture Devices
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Description: ESS Allegro
Default Sound Capture: Yes
Default Voice Capture: Yes
Driver Name: es198x.sys
Driver Version: 5.12.0001.1171 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 5/8/2002 11:08:56, 189568 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x1
Format Flags: 0xFFF

Description: VIA Audio (WAVE)
Default Sound Capture: No
Default Voice Capture: No
Driver Name: ac97via.sys
Driver Version: 5.10.0000.3521 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 8/17/2001 05:20:16, 35200 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x1
Format Flags: 0xFFF

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DirectMusic
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DLS Path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\drivers\GM.DLS
DLS Version: 1.00.0016.0002
Acceleration: n/a
Ports: Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port
VIA Audio (WAVE), Software (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
ESS Allegro, Software (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
Microsoft MIDI Mapper [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
Registry: OK
Test Result: Not run

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DirectInput Devices
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Device Name: Mouse
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No
Registry: OK

madness · « **Reply #3 on:** September 17, 2004, 12:28:56 AM »

For the love of god! Someone fix my sheeeet...ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhh

Roscoroo · « **Reply #4 on:** September 17, 2004, 01:00:50 AM »

try running in 16bit instead of 32bit ..

When i have problems with a game ect i always set the monitor to 600x800 16bit for troubleshooting ...

your video drivers look correct .

im not shure about 9.0c but then i havent heard any complaints about it yet either.

start the game and go to video setup and set the textures at 256 . and dont save any textures in video ram or system ram .
also match the display settings with what windows is set at AE 800x600 16bit .

now load it up for offline play and see if it works .

madness · « **Reply #5 on:** September 17, 2004, 02:50:22 AM »

Nope didn't work

fuzeman · « **Reply #6 on:** September 17, 2004, 08:02:04 AM »

I use Win98se not XP but from what I've heard; some good but mostly bad, I wouldn't install XPsp2 yet. You don't specifically say whether you did or didn't.
What kind of sound card do you have? I see ESS listed in some sound card catagories. Not sure if thats a good indication.
Set sound hardware acceleratioin to 3/4 max. You can also try lowering video hardware acceleration a notch at a time to see if it makes any difference.
I assume you have had AH2 running in this rig before, correct?

Roscoroo · « **Reply #7 on:** September 17, 2004, 12:29:54 PM »

hmmm somethings off then

id try turning down the sound excelleration in windows ... also are you running a firewall or AV program ??

you could be losing resources to a bug or something running

ive got ah2 running on a 800mhz amd /384 ram/gf 2 mx 64mb/win98se combo (the frame rates are low and the detail is down) but its playable

madness · « **Reply #8 on:** September 17, 2004, 04:55:27 PM »

I don't have SP2 because I heard its bad. I have tryed lowering acceleration on sound card(no luck). My sound card is an ESS Allegro sound card that works fine in other games. The stock sound card thats integrated is a VIA Audio(WAVE) card. I have the ESS allegro set to primary sound card though. I really appreciate the replys guys. I'll keep trying to figure this out. BTW I could run AH 1 just fine on this same setup.

Edit*- no firewall and AV is turned off.

fuzeman · « **Reply #9 on:** September 17, 2004, 05:09:13 PM »

You can think of AH1 and AH2 as two completely different games, really. The system requirements are higher for AH2 than AH1.

madness · « **Reply #10 on:** September 17, 2004, 05:13:54 PM »

OK I think it might be something with direct X. Because just yesterday I dl DX 9.0c and I fail the Fullscreen test modes for the display tab. During the directdraw test, I can pass all the first 3 tests(none are fullscreen) but then the 4th one is full screen and bam, white screen and PC completley locks up. Same for the Direct3d test. I could do these tests and pass all of them with no problem before I upgraded from dx 8.1 to 9.0c. Is there anyway to go back to a later version of DirectX??

madness · « **Reply #11 on:** September 17, 2004, 05:44:46 PM »

Ok, just reinstalled DX 9.0c but still locks up at the fullscreen tests in directdraw. Starting to wish I never upgraded to 9.0c in the first place

Ok something strange i just noticed. I opened film viewer and all the textures are all white, everything, except the sky is blue. And when i try and open a film it crashes.

madness · « **Reply #12 on:** September 17, 2004, 06:30:51 PM »

LOL, ok so I installed directx 8.1b to see if that would work now when I try and start AH it says my video card(Geforce 3 64mb)does not support hardware T&L???

Roscoroo · « **Reply #13 on:** September 18, 2004, 12:27:37 AM »

you need to use direct x 9.0b ah2 doesnt work with 8.0 or 8.1

madness · « **Reply #14 on:** September 18, 2004, 11:43:08 AM »

Right I still have 9.0c installed. But this is definatley a direct X problem. Tryed to play another DX game and it freezes at startup also. Only games I can play are opengl.