Author Topic: Iran is in BIG trouble now! (Read 5147 times)

Nefarious · « **Reply #75 on:** September 18, 2004, 11:53:56 PM »

http://www.wonderland.org.nz/nw/clamshell_radar.htm

Did a little researching,

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To date Western manufacturers have not disclosed whether currently deployed anti-radiation missiles such as the AGM-88 HARM and Matra-BAe ALARM have the capability to detect and engage CW emitters such as the "Clam Shell". Should this capability be absent in current inventory rounds, effective suppression of SA-10 site acquisition components will be significantly complicated. Because a "Clam Shell" supported S-300 battery has an effective capability against low flying cruise missiles, the alternative of suppression using cruise weapons, as was performed in Bosnia and Southern Iraq, may not be viable.

The Words "have not disclosed", does not mean it is not capable to destroy them.

We still use the Harm, If they are innefective against the S-300, then I'm sure Texas Instruments would be churning out new versions of the Harm, or a new missile even to counter them.

Nash · « **Reply #76 on:** September 18, 2004, 11:54:24 PM »

Okay thars the people... like regular folks and all.

All living in a happy democracy in Iran.

Leader of said democracy isn't to the US's liking. Oil issues. So US overthrows government and installs Shaw guy.

Shaw a belly belly bad man!

Religious nuts overthrow shaw.

Poof - life as they knew it in '52 is dinner.

NUKE · « **Reply #77 on:** September 18, 2004, 11:54:51 PM »

goin to bed

Nefarious · « **Reply #78 on:** September 19, 2004, 12:26:09 AM »

Great Link,

So while the Iranians operate the S300/400 in limited numbers, from what I've been reading,numerous other modern SAM systems make up the majority of its Air Defense Network.

Can a handful of S300/400 sytems hold back the Israeli Air Force?

What about a Israeli/US/British offensive to destroy the Iranians Nuclear capability? What about just a US/British offensive?

What about the change in Russian Foreign policy? would they put there "Military Advisors" at risk of American/Israeli/British warplanes? To much is riding on the line. All the money in the world is not worth all the lives at risk.

Its to many questions for us to ponder, I'm glad i'm not the one who gets paid to brief our Nations leaders about this situation.

B17Skull12 · « **Reply #79 on:** September 19, 2004, 12:40:16 AM »

who would be more willing to throw nukes at us troops? Iran or NK?

Sixpence · « **Reply #80 on:** September 19, 2004, 12:42:06 AM »

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Originally posted by demaw1
No oil and you and us will be in the worst depreesion ever. I think most of us would starve in no less than 60 days .

Too funny. There was life before oil, and there will be life long after it is gone. Go biodiesel, support your local farmer, not the terrorists

Nefarious · « **Reply #81 on:** September 19, 2004, 01:14:38 AM »

When I said,

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Can a handful of S300/400 sytems hold back the Israeli Air Force?

What about a Israeli/US/British offensive to destroy the Iranians Nuclear capability? What about just a US/British offensive?

What about the change in Russian Foreign policy? would they put there "Military Advisors" at risk of American/Israeli/British warplanes?

I did not mean,

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an invasion of Iran.

Please dont take what I said as an Invasion, I ment a Sustained Air Offensive, Not Paratroopers landing in Tehran. I'm sorry if you interpeted it that way.

When I say Offensive I was referring to an operation like Linebacker I/II, Not Operation Overlord. Even though you are correct, we were talking about an Israeli premptive strike, not a joint operation.

I'll leave you with one question, before I sign off, Do you think it would be impossible for the Israeli's to destroy any Iranian Nuke Plant/Facility in one quick "suprise" Strike?

Nice conversation GScholz, I'll be sure to check in on this thread later, after I get some Zzzzz....

Gixer · « **Reply #82 on:** September 19, 2004, 01:15:22 AM »

Anyone is interested in what Iran has militarily this is a great site. Plus information on the current Iran Nuclear programe.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/

~~...-Gixer~~

Nefarious · « **Reply #83 on:** September 19, 2004, 01:21:06 AM »

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/iran-strikes.htm

Interesting read.

Thanks Gix.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #84 on:** September 19, 2004, 01:39:12 AM »

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Originally posted by Chortle
Can someone explain to me why North Korea, who admits having Nukes, and is part of the Axis of Evil hasn't been invaded yet?

Yes I can. In one word

China

Seeker · « **Reply #85 on:** September 19, 2004, 01:43:02 AM »

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Originally posted by ASTAC
Fundamentalist Muslims is how it happened...not Oil

UN making demands..

How can anybody take the UN seriously? What power do they really have?

That's not my understanding of how democracy was derailed in Iran in the latter half of the last centuary.

Got a link?

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #86 on:** September 19, 2004, 01:47:04 AM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
Because Iraq already had a dictator. Dictators are a lot more difficult to overthrow.

The facts are indisputable. You instigated and funded the deliberate overthrow of a democratic government and created a dictatorship in Iran, and a brutal one at that.

If ya think that was something. Wait till ya see what we have planned for Norway:D

Relax.. Im JOKING

Fishu · « **Reply #87 on:** September 19, 2004, 06:42:32 AM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
I'm making a valid point. The point being the the UN holds no power and demands no respect because they refuse to enforce their demands with force when required.

This has led to a situation in which NOBODY cares what the UN demands.

Well.. all this fuzz about UN not wanting to attack Iraq due to insufficient evidence of Saddam not following the UN resolution.

Now that US is swarming all around Iraq, where is the WMD, which why UN was supposed to attack Iraq?

So far it looks like UN did do correctly.

Gh0stFT · « **Reply #88 on:** September 19, 2004, 07:10:33 AM »

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Originally posted by Fishu
Well.. all this fuzz about UN not wanting to attack Iraq due to insufficient evidence of Saddam not following the UN resolution.

Now that US is swarming all around Iraq, where is the WMD, which why UN was supposed to attack Iraq?

So far it looks like UN did do correctly.

Maniac · « **Reply #89 on:** September 19, 2004, 07:32:20 AM »

Its evident that the Americans in this thread are bitter because we in Europe was right the entire time.