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« Reply #30 on: September 20, 2004, 04:22:02 PM »
You know its gonna be some extremely lame bomber cuz everyone is so siked out about it ooo its gonna be the b29 and for all we know its a new upgrade for the boston3. so dont get your hopes up. cuz there gonna be shattered for all we know:p

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« Reply #31 on: September 20, 2004, 04:22:23 PM »
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Either the Pe-2 or the Tu-2 was not going to be modelled by HTC because of the lack of availability of internal photos. Might have changed, but I haven't seen anything that would indicate that.


Yeah ... thats kind of why I doubt it'd be a Pe-2 ... just hard to get data and pics.

I'll laugh my butt off if its the Hs129, though. That would be uber fun for killing GV's.

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« Reply #32 on: September 20, 2004, 06:26:48 PM »
pe2 would be good..its fast(faster than a lot of fighters) good bomb load( like to see the engine necell bomb doors) it was a good dive bomber and lvl bomber..
pe8 heavy would also be welcome

i would rather see b25 before the b24....no doubting the 24 was a good bomber but its almost identical stats to b17 would make it a waste of good man hours..



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« Reply #33 on: September 20, 2004, 06:28:00 PM »
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Either the Pe-2 or the Tu-2 was not going to be modelled by HTC because of the lack of availability of internal photos. Might have changed, but I haven't seen anything that would indicate that.


not many of the ah planes cockpits can be called very accurate
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« Reply #34 on: September 20, 2004, 10:09:03 PM »
Selector, saying the B-24 is like the B-17 is saying the same thing as a B-25 is the same as a B-26.  :D

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« Reply #35 on: September 21, 2004, 09:19:42 AM »
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Either the Pe-2 or the Tu-2 was not going to be modelled by HTC because of the lack of availability of internal photos. Might have changed, but I haven't seen anything that would indicate that.


They are available now..............

http://www.airwar.ru/other/bibl/tu2man.zip
« Last Edit: September 21, 2004, 09:23:41 AM by Tilt »
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« Reply #36 on: September 21, 2004, 12:15:27 PM »
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Selector, saying the B-24 is like the B-17 is saying the same thing as a B-25 is the same as a B-26.  :D



Not so. It holds ONLY 2 1k bombs more than the b17. It flies a whopping 2 miles per hour faster. It flies only about 5k higher than the b17.


Why the hell should they waste time putting in a carbon copy when there are so many BADLY needed bombers in this game?

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« Reply #37 on: September 21, 2004, 12:22:06 PM »
I think it will be a Swordfish.  :D

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« Reply #38 on: September 21, 2004, 03:53:31 PM »
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Why the hell should they waste time putting in a carbon copy when there are so many BADLY needed bombers in this game?

Because its so dayum sexy!

Actually, it will add a lot to scenarios, and will allow many more to be created and flown.

And really, if given the choice, what would you fly:  A B-24 or a Pe-2?

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« Reply #39 on: September 21, 2004, 04:18:28 PM »
I'd definately take a Pe-2...

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« Reply #40 on: September 21, 2004, 05:57:16 PM »
Pe2  accurate and doesn't have to fly with Satillites to stay alive.
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« Reply #41 on: September 21, 2004, 06:52:52 PM »
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Pe2  accurate and doesn't have to fly with Satillites to stay alive.

What does this mean?  
Its accurate in bombing?  
So are B-24s.

It doesnt have to fly with Satellites to say alive?
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« Reply #42 on: September 21, 2004, 06:58:17 PM »
Argh! I hope HT models that damned Liberator just to be done with it and concentrate on the actual gaps that need fillin'. ;)

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« Reply #43 on: September 21, 2004, 07:15:02 PM »
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Argh! I hope HT models that damned Liberator just to be done with it and concentrate on the actual gaps that need fillin'. ;)

:D

I have no problem with other bombers, but I really want that there Liberator.

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« Reply #44 on: September 21, 2004, 07:16:13 PM »
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I seem to recall only 500 produced before war's end.

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Over 1000 of the total 2000 produced were produced prior to the end of the GPW.

The Tu2 never formed more than 9% of the total VVS bomber force which was dominated by the the Pe 2 and its variants.

Further the Tu2 was only used as a level bomber..........the dive bomber role left to the Pe2..

What you have here is the RL medium to low altitude level bomber.

Just as the Il2m3 was a "battle field" level attack bomber, the Tu2 operated in air space only just higher whilst the Pe2 was the  pin point dive bomber with air brakes etc for many of its variants.

The problem then is that the Tu2 should be available in formations yet it has 2 x 20mm forward firing guns to generally abuse game play in the arena.........(jeez I sound like homer)

The Tu2 could carry up to 1350kg of mixed ordinance

the pe 2 could carry up to 1000 kg made up of 6 x 100kg internally (4 in the fuselage and 1 in each engine nacelle) plus upto 2 x 500Kg or 4 x 250 kg wing mounted bombs. If internal and wing capacities were maxed out then the ac was over weight.

AH options would be

6 x 100 internal

6 x 100 internal plus 10 x RS 132 Rockets

6 x 100 internal plus 4 x 100 external

4 x 250 external

2 x 500 external
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