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« on: September 19, 2004, 02:01:37 PM »
"Associated Press
 
Updated: Thu. Sep. 9 2004 11:57 AM ET

SEOUL, South Korea — South Korea said Thursday that it extracted a tiny amount of plutonium in a nuclear experiment in 1982, a revelation that followed an acknowledgment last week that it enriched a small amount of uranium in 2000.

South Korea also said it had "lost" some nuclear material from the 1982 experiment, and acknowledged differences with the UN nuclear agency over the South's report on the matter.

Plutonium and enriched uranium are two key ingredients of nuclear weapons. The controversy over South Korea's uranium-based experiment has threatened to further disrupt troubled efforts to persuade North Korea to dismantle its suspected nuclear weapons programs.

On Thursday, a South Korean delegation left for the UN agency's headquarters in Vienna, Austria, to explain the experiments and pledge transparency in nuclear operations.

The plutonium-based experiment was conducted in April and May 1982 at a Seoul research reactor belonging to the Korea Atomic Energy Research Institute, South Korea said in a statement.

"This experiment was conducted by a small group of scientists to analyse the chemical characteristics of plutonium," the Ministry of Science and Technology said.

"We have no written data left on the result of the experiment and the amount of plutonium extracted, but we estimate that a very minute amount in the range of milligrams was extracted," the ministry said.

It said the UN International Atomic Energy Agency found traces of plutonium while examining environmental samples at the site of the reactor, which is being dismantled.

UN officials asked for clarification from South Korea in 1998, but South Korea said it could not find relevant data on research at the TRIGA Mark III reactor. When asked for clarification again in 2003, South Korea said it discovered that a tiny amount of plutonium had been extracted.

"We also confirmed that we informed the IAEA in September 1983 that the nuclear material used during the experiment was lost and should be exempt from safeguard measures," it said.

All the equipment used and samples taken during the experiment were scrapped and kept as nuclear waste, the ministry said.

South Korea said that in March, it presented a report to the IAEA explaining the plutonium experiment, and an IAEA delegation that visited South Korea last week to investigate the 2000 uranium test also continued the plutonium investigation.

South Korea reiterated that it will "thoroughly" honour all its obligations as a member country of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty.

The revelation follows a disclosure last week that the U.S. ally conducted a secret uranium-enrichment experiment four years ago. North Korea responded to that experiment by warning of a "nuclear arms race" in Northeast Asia.

The United States, with the support of South Korea, Japan, China and Russia, has been trying to negotiate an end to North Korea's nuclear weapons program. The talks are due to resume at the end of the month, but no date has been announced."

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I wonder if there's going to be the same amount of diplomatic pressure on SK as on other countries that were/are thought to, or have admitted to developing nukes.

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« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2004, 02:05:13 PM »
OHH NO IT IS PERFECTLY FINE SINCE THEY ARE FRIENDS.

i can see it coming already.
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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2004, 02:06:03 PM »
Hey Einstein, we already have a zillion troops there, what do you want us to do, pull out so you can whine when we re-invade?

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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2004, 02:06:46 PM »
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OHH NO IT IS PERFECTLY FINE SINCE THEY ARE FRIENDS.

i can see it coming already.


And how exactly would it be wrong?

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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2004, 02:08:45 PM »
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And how exactly would it be wrong?
hum im going to attempt at this but since i have no clue what you mean i will be wrong.

we whine "So and So has nukes!!!!"
but yet someother country points out our allies have them.  "Bah it is ok, since they are friends"  is a reply.
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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2004, 02:11:38 PM »
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Originally posted by B17Skull12
hum im going to attempt at this but since i have no clue what you mean i will be wrong.

we whine "So and So has nukes!!!!"
but yet someother country points out our allies have them.  "Bah it is ok, since they are friends"  is a reply.


     Ok brainiac, what exactly should we do to our allies?
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« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2004, 02:12:03 PM »
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Originally posted by B17Skull12
hum im going to attempt at this but since i have no clue what you mean i will be wrong.

we whine "So and So has nukes!!!!"
but yet someother country points out our allies have them.  "Bah it is ok, since they are friends"  is a reply.


Umm yeah, that's kind of the idea son.  It's been the pattern for the last 60 years, why would it change now?

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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2004, 02:14:57 PM »
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Umm yeah, that's kind of the idea son.  It's been the pattern for the last 60 years, why would it change now?
because i say so :p
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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2004, 02:16:39 PM »
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Hey Einstein, we already have a zillion troops there, what do you want us to do, pull out so you can whine when we re-invade?


Uh, the US is already starting to pull out of SK.


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And how exactly would it be wrong?



Hypocracy, letting an ally getting away with breaking the Non-proliferation treaty and condemning a nation that isn't an ally.

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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2004, 02:21:36 PM »
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Originally posted by B17Skull12
hum im going to attempt at this but since i have no clue what you mean i will be wrong.

we whine "So and So has nukes!!!!"
but yet someother country points out our allies have them.  "Bah it is ok, since they are friends"  is a reply.


When did all these bleading hearts get this attitude that everything needs to be fair?????


Crack a history book and look up the 1950s.  North Korea invaded the south.

They were then and still are a communist state.

They are also governed by an evil dictator that controls his laborforce/population by means of starvation and propaganda.

Now compare them to the south.  One of our allies and a relitivly peacefull nation that is still in a state of war w/ their northern neighbors.

Why would we want them to be fair and not have nukes....they have never demenstrated an ill will nore have they ever acted aggresivly AND they have stated they are willing to conform to the UN nuke inspection rules???????

Why would we want to help out north korea by limiting its enemy's defencive capabilities???????

B17Skull either you are trolling here or your head is clouded by your socialist liberal teachers.  Try and have an original thaught based on a logical assesment of a situation.

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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2004, 02:28:33 PM »
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Hypocracy, letting an ally getting away with breaking the Non-proliferation treaty and condemning a nation that isn't an ally.


Well you are right, there should be diplomatic pressure.  But to compare them to Iraq or DPRK is crazy.

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« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2004, 02:35:06 PM »
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When did all these bleading hearts get this attitude that everything needs to be fair?????


tell that to your enemys (i.e. NK)
kinda funny if u ask me, no wonder wars happen.
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« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2004, 03:43:50 PM »
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Well you are right, there should be diplomatic pressure.  But to compare them to Iraq or DPRK is crazy.



To DPRK perhaps.  But perhaps not Iraq.  

I was thinking more along the lines of Iran, hence my oh so clever and ironic thread title.

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« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2004, 03:46:05 PM »
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When did all these bleading hearts get this attitude that everything needs to be fair?????



Wow, just wow.

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« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2004, 03:47:05 PM »
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Originally posted by Thrawn
hence my oh so clever and ironic thread title.


I think you're giving yourself too much credit.