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Offline Gunslinger

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« on: September 20, 2004, 12:08:59 PM »
Not gun control or wich gun to buy.


Was curious about any of the Married guys out there have problems w/ your wives about owning a firearm?  What about protection from the kids and eduation IE whens a good age to sit them down and say "DONT TOUCH" and when to actually take them shooting?  I found out we have a real life out door rifle range and club out here so I was thinking about buying a rifle and polishing up on my marksmanship skills.
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Offline superpug1

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« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2004, 01:18:39 PM »
My parents got me shootin at 5 with a little bity single shot .22.  its best to always talk about them about dont touch unless im around. keep the key hidden to the gun cabinet.
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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2004, 01:34:17 PM »
I'm probably at the same stage of the decision process as you Gunslinger.  The wife seems to be okay with it, and even agreed to go take the mandatory class with me when we get the chance.  Don't have kids just yet, but it's important to consider them.  If you're so inclined, head on over to http://www.thehighroad.org and register.  It's a well-moderated, orderly forum populated by good people who shoot, hunt, and defend the Second Amendment.  They even encourage those on the other side of the fence to come aboard to discuss, so as long as it's civil.  You don't get canked just for having an opposing viewpoint.  

As far as when to introduce the kids, it seems that if you feel they are at a point where they can demonstrate responsibility then it may be a good time.  What seems to work some is to show kids that the firearm isn't a toy and that it can do permanent, serious damage to anything.  Teach them the four rules.  And that whenever they want to see your firearm, they need to ASK you first.  Taking the mystery out of it seems to be the bottom line.  But take a gander at The High Road forums - I searched there for similar concerns and found a lot of good advice.  And don't be affraid to post if your search didn't answer all your questions.  You won't be ridiculed there.  

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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2004, 01:37:26 PM »
I was shooint was bullets out of a 1911 when I was 8. My dad let me handle the guns supervised when I asked from then on. From 16 on I was shooting at the local range on my own.

My GF is a better shot then I am and her only problem with guns is how much they cost. (with a 9mm, she wont shoot a .45, she broke both wrists multible times falling off horses and they are sensitive now)

She will not let her sons, shoot tell the are 12. If they were mine I would insist on gun safety lessons before then, but they are not and I respect her wishes. I also do not want to Step on the Xs toes, he wants to be the one to teach them to shoot.


So when they are around the guns get locked away more then I normaly do, and I have no ammo in the house.
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« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2004, 01:39:19 PM »
Wife has a Conceal and Carry license so there is no problem there.  My kids were 4 and 7 when they began helping dad clean the firearm inventory.  We discuss gun safety while we're cleaning, and I answer their silly questions like "Will this bullet go through a board?"  Introducing them to firearms and letting them handle them takes out all the mystery of firearms.  My dad did this with me, and we had 21 guns in a closet unlocked when I grew up. We never touched the guns unless Dad was around because frankly we didn't care about them, the "mystery" of guns was not there since we were introduced to them at a young age.

Curiousity killed the cat.  Familiarization made him understand and not be curious anymore.

This winter my oldest son (turns 9) gets his first BB gun. If he still shows interest when he's 10 (and displays common sense and a sense of safety), I'll give him  a single shot 410 for duck hunting next year.
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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2004, 01:47:48 PM »
Rip is right on...

That was my dads plan as well, and that is why if I wanted to see them he let me. All the while reinforcing gun safety.

Not one of his guns were locked up when I was a kid, hidden in a wall compartment, but not locked up.
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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2004, 01:51:36 PM »
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Offline tce2506

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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2004, 02:58:29 PM »
Follow Rip and GTo's advice. They hit it right on. Education is the key. My daughters are 9 and 10 and have been shooting since they were six, and hunting since they were eight. Oh yeah, and the wife too!
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« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2004, 03:02:57 PM »
My wife doesn't want me to have any..so I don't right now...but I will..I usually get the last word when I want something:D
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« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2004, 03:57:29 PM »
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I see they are sporting the "wanna be like daddy haircuts" ;)

But seriously thanks for the advice.  My daughter who is real prissy probably wouldnt want to even look at a gun, she hates fireworks with a passion.

My son would love them just because they are daddy's.  He's only 3 though and obviously way to young.  My wife has allways said flat out no guns in the house.  She's kind of a lost confusd conservative thinking liberal.  If I want it bad enough and I use my credit card to pay for it she would probably cave in as long as the kids don't know about it and will never be able to access it.

The bolt action rifle thread got me wanting to shoot again.  If I can find one that I like for cheap I just might go with it.
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« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2004, 04:55:27 PM »
My Dad had me cleaning his .38 when I was 6. I got my first Pellet gun at 7 and my single shot .22 (I still have it hanging on the wall) at 8. He did turn me off guns a bit when he burst thru the door yelling "Die MF'ers" and firing a blanks when I was 5. Dad was an A-hole when he was drunk, and that was most of the time.
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« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2004, 05:32:22 PM »
depending on the kid 5-6 is a good age to teach them to shoot (some kids never seem to mature enough).

I never do the "don't touch" thing.  its more of a "not by yourself, ask me to show you" and then allow them to touch, explain how it works, etc.  give them all the info you can as soon as they show interest, take it as far as you can (until it's obvious they aren't listening).

IMO if they know they can gave (more or less) complete access, then there is no big mystery to tempt them into getting their hands on it when you aren't around.

most of the exact time and way to approach it depends on your kid, you're the only one who can really judge that.  most kids have an automatic curiosity, when it pops up, feed it immediately, otherwise they may go looking for (wrong) info on their own.

as far as the wifes issues.  she said no, I bought them anyway, she got over it.
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« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2004, 05:37:03 PM »
My better half sometimes just comes up with stuff out of the blue....

She says she wants to learn how to shoot as her dad didn't teach her (old school macho kinda guy)...and was insistant that she first learn how with a .30-06!  

It took a while but I managed to talk her into beginning with a .243.
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« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2004, 06:18:40 PM »
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My better half sometimes just comes up with stuff out of the blue....

She says she wants to learn how to shoot as her dad didn't teach her (old school macho kinda guy)...and was insistant that she first learn how with a .30-06!  

It took a while but I managed to talk her into beginning with a .243.


You haven't recently pissed her off have you? :eek:
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« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2004, 08:09:18 PM »
When my wife was a kid her father shot though her bedroom wall while cleaning a pistol (with her in the room), but surprisingly she's not totally against them. I have a number of pistols including some I inherited when her father passed away.

Kind of a money thing though - "Do you really need to spend money on..." It helps that the guns I want to collect cost under $200 each.

I plan on getting a good, lockable gun cabinet when I get the rifle(s). That should make it easier when we have kids, but I don't think she's quite thought about that angle yet, so I'm not going to bring it up any time soon :)

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