Author Topic: WATCH NEWS!!!! A B-24J Liberator!!!!!! (Read 3913 times)

Slash27 · « **Reply #75 on:** September 22, 2004, 07:35:13 PM »

a decent LW bomber, or any VVS bomber, or hell, any early IJN bomber are out the window.

Lighten on the doom n' gloom bud. This is the begining of the good stuff

Karnak · « **Reply #76 on:** September 22, 2004, 08:07:29 PM »

Ok negative people, the B-24J wasn't at the top of my list either, but it is still a good plane.

It will get used in the MA, which is HTC's bread and butter. That is particularly important in this release. To get MA usable units that are done to AH2 standards in the game will help gain subscribers. Units like the B-24J and Ki-84-I-Ko that will see very wide usage in the MA.

The fact is that the B-24J is a classic aircraft and is a valuable addition to AH. We will get more aircraft.

For my part I am looking forward to playing around with not only the Ki-84 that I wanted, but also the B-24 that wasn't really on my list. It will be a great addition to AH.

debuman · « **Reply #77 on:** September 22, 2004, 08:42:07 PM »

Is it just me, or is the B-24 in the pictures missing it's top turret? The B-24 did have a top turret, right?

4510 · « **Reply #78 on:** September 22, 2004, 09:10:52 PM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
So why would anybody use the B17 now? This thing carries more bombs, has better defensive firepower, especially from 6oc and 12oc high.

So whats the B17 for?

B17 should be able to handle more damage...

B17 has a belly gunner....

According to a 390th BG vet I spoke to couple weekends ago... 17 could fly higher than the B24 also.

Tails · « **Reply #79 on:** September 22, 2004, 09:21:37 PM »

B-24 has a belly gun as well. It also happens to be retractable.

And I'll toss in my two cents, and say I would of loved to have seen a bomber -other- than the '24. A Ju-188, Betty, Hardnosed B-25 (With 75mm and parafrags...*drool*). Like someone else mentioned, the 24 is gonna end up like our other two heavy bombers: A gigantic dive bomber.

Hell, atleast they could of given us the Condor...-that- was a bomber that was built to have some kind of dive bombing ability...it'd fit right in with the MA

Arlo · « **Reply #80 on:** September 22, 2004, 09:22:38 PM »

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Originally posted by 4510
B17 should be able to handle more damage...

B17 has a belly gunner....

According to a 390th BG vet I spoke to couple weekends ago... 17 could fly higher than the B24 also.

1. Might could but there's some contention, it seems.

2. B-24 has a belly gunner.

3. Might could but there's some contention, it seems.

4. It's obviously a done deal. We may as well smile, accept it and have fun with it. (And while we're at it get ready to give Pyro our next choice, should he poll the clients for it. I'm still pushin' for the Sparviero.

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firbal · « **Reply #81 on:** September 22, 2004, 09:45:12 PM »

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Originally posted by Cooley
22nd HBG Red Raiders and
450th HBG Cottontails Skins..

Pleease [/QUOTEYes.

The Red Raiders skin plz. Might then get some of my squad members of the Red Raiders in WBs to come over here.

-tronski- · « **Reply #82 on:** September 22, 2004, 09:45:43 PM »

Nice a/c btw superfly/HT

Tronsky

Karnak · « **Reply #83 on:** September 22, 2004, 10:03:24 PM »

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Originally posted by Tails
Hell, atleast they could of given us the Condor...-that- was a bomber that was built to have some kind of dive bombing ability...it'd fit right in with the MA

No it wasn't.

There seem to be some rather large delusions about the Condor.

The Condor was designed as a passenger aircraft for Lufthansa and was pressed into service as a patrol bomber by the Germans due to it's extreme range for it's day. It was, however, completely unsuited to combat. Structually weak, several broke their backs while landing.

In the terms of AH's MA or CT and reality the Ju88A-4 was a vastly more survivable warplane that just didn't have the needed range. The Condor was fragile, slow (224mph) and only carried a 2,100kg (4,630lb) bombload.

The only reason the Fw200 was as successful as it was is because it operated outside of the range of Allied fighters at that stage of the war. I know of at least on occasion where a freighter equipped with a Hurricane on a catapult resulted in the destruction of two of them as they orbited the convoy to guide the U-Boats in. Once long range Allied aircraft like the P-38, P-51 and Mosquito became available the Condor's goose was cooked.

As a Mossie driver I'd find great pleasure in a scenario of Mossie VIs vs. Fw200s, but it would be hard to find Luftwaffe fliers for it.

Mugzeee · « **Reply #84 on:** September 22, 2004, 10:03:38 PM »

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Originally posted by Karnak
I don't think so. 4,000lb, 8,000lb and 12,000lb bombs were more of a British thing.

It will probably have a loadout with 2,000lb bombs though. At least I'd think it would.

At least i think it should in keeping things proportionate

streakeagle · « **Reply #85 on:** September 22, 2004, 10:07:40 PM »

Long overdue... good job

Raptor · « **Reply #86 on:** September 22, 2004, 10:08:13 PM »

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Originally posted by Flyboy
how come the terrein on my computer doesnt look so nice?

there are another set of tiles you can download at AH-Terrain, but before you use them you must have max textures set to 1024

brady · « **Reply #87 on:** September 22, 2004, 10:27:10 PM »

I salute the hard work and certainly appricate the effort in making the B-24...But I am EXTREAMLY disapointed to see this plane being modeled.

Allied High it still is aparently.

United · « **Reply #88 on:** September 22, 2004, 10:33:44 PM »

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Originally posted by brady
I salute the hard work and certainly appricate the effort in making the B-24...But I am EXTREAMLY disapointed to see this plane being modeled.

Allied High it still is aparently.

Im betting that now, since both artists have some experience in the new AHII game engine, fighters and bombers will roll out much faster.

DipStick · « **Reply #89 on:** September 22, 2004, 10:40:18 PM »

Nice work Superfly. Looks great!