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Offline OIO

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Japan to become permanent member of UN council?
« on: September 23, 2004, 10:40:28 AM »
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/09/22/un.reforms/index.html


Japan has asked that Germany,Japan,India and Brazil receive a council seat.


Personally I think its a great idea. Each continent should have at least two nations as permanent members of the council, the UN up to today has been dominated for too long by WW2 victor nations (which I dont understand why france was given veto powers in the first place but anyway..).

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Sounds good on paper
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2004, 11:05:11 AM »
I like the idea, though I do not know how well Pakistan would like the idea of India getting a seat...

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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2004, 12:05:03 PM »
I say eliminate the wasted land there in New York and disband the UN altogether.
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« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2004, 02:23:31 PM »
If we left the UN they could have our seat.

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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2004, 03:13:42 PM »
Japan and Germany definitely deserve a seat.

Gotta like Koizumi, he put the flag and anthem back, he's more agressive militarily, he sent a small force to Iraq, he's challenging the old couurupt Japanese economic system and now this.. :)
« Last Edit: September 23, 2004, 03:18:10 PM by GRUNHERZ »

Offline Pei

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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2004, 06:21:17 PM »
India has a better claim than either of them.

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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2004, 06:34:41 PM »
I think the time has come for these four countries to become permanent members of the UN Security Council.

But who cares what I think?

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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2004, 06:54:07 PM »
The flag never went away. :)

Praising the return of the anthem, then praising the challenging of the 'old corrupt' system in the next sentence doesn't make sense. Not being argumentative here, but just trying to inform you so you have a chance to rethink your position before repeating it. The anthem is being forced on people by the same old men who want to preserve the 'old corrupt' system. It's a throwback to the pre-war days and sings the glorys of the emperor.

It's pretty hard to make the case that the 'economic system' and political system are more, or less, corrupt than anywhere else.

As for the UN, it can't hurt to have some new permanent UNSC members. The current 'old corrupt' ones aren't agreeing on much or listening to each other now. :)

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« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2004, 07:15:28 PM »
Yeah.  I think it'd be funny if we left the UN, but kept the building.

But then we'd tell everyone that they werent' allowed to touch american soil to get there and back.
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« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2004, 07:23:47 PM »
Rolex I like the old flag and anthem as symbols. I also like Koizumis economic reform attempts and I hope that he can be sucessful because Japan needs to move forward in this area.  The two arent mustually exclusive in my view of Japanese politics and culture.  As far as the old men go, well, not much can be done without more voteing reform or a serious readjustement of the political parties and the faction system.
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Offline OIO

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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2004, 08:52:39 PM »
Japan's population is not going to blindly follow their military as they did in WW2.

This generation is completely, completely different than the one that the allies fought in the 40's.


Germany however... aya yay, about 'em im not so sure.

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« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2004, 10:47:14 PM »
Blind obedience is not the issue. Well, I'll let you guys have the last word.

I only have 14 years experience inside the gates of government and private industry here, so I appreciate this opportunity to learn from you...

Offline GRUNHERZ

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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2004, 10:52:16 PM »
What with the attitude rolex?

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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2004, 10:59:12 PM »
What's with the attitude?

Frankly, I'd be a little pissed about some punk trying to give me his completely narrowly informed opinion about something I happened to, like, live and work in.

But Rolex wasn't pissed. It was a polite slap-down. Don't give him 'what's up with the attitude"... merely be thankful for the suggestion, and quit before you get hurt.

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« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2004, 11:02:51 PM »
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