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Offline B17Skull12

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« Reply #30 on: September 28, 2004, 10:15:00 PM »
ASTAC,

there is a difference between a innoncent person such as a journalist and a soilder.  Why do you think they get the title veteran when they reitre?
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« Reply #31 on: September 28, 2004, 10:20:33 PM »
The reporter and camera crew were indirectly reponsible.


The car is approaching,and the road to the left seems clear.He turns and checks out the camera crew as he stops.He starts rolling and looks left,and the white van which has just crossed blocks his view of the car that just approached.

He should have waited until the van cleared,but he probably assumed that since it was clear just mere seconds earlier it was ok.If the car had been 50 feet farther back,he would have seen it  behind the van.

This is all just speculation on my part after watching it several times.

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« Reply #32 on: September 28, 2004, 10:21:54 PM »
I agree with a lot of the opinions about the reporter in the video, he should have immediatly rendered aid, and forget the yapping into the mic.

Now, as far as journalists taking up arms, I don't blame any who have or do in the future if they think it is necessary to survive.  Here is a shocking thought for some of you, enemy soldiers in the large majority of cases won't bother to distinquish soldiers from reporters when in a battle.

Anyone read the book "We were Soldiers once, and young..".  Joe Galloway picked up an M16 and commenced to shooting NVA, as they were in imminent danger of being overrun and if this had occured, it is guaranteed he would have been killed in this event.  In his place, I would have been shooting away also.  A journalist at some point has the right to protect his own life.  As far as I am concern, he should also render aid if he is the only one available to do so in any situation, whether at an accident or in combat.

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« Reply #33 on: September 28, 2004, 10:36:54 PM »
maybe it is just me, but i thoug it is a war crime to shoot innocent people during a war and in a war zone?
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« Reply #34 on: September 28, 2004, 11:51:21 PM »
LOL B17, you can't be serious?

Was the Malmedy massacre a crime?

How about the death camps were millions of Jews were exterminated?

Maybe the torture and killing of POWS in just about every war?

Are these crimes?  Sure, but the reality is that they happen.  Shooting journalists happens too.  Breaking a law or two?  Yup, every see many prosecuted for it?

I haven't seen a case yet were a journalists little "press" badge stopped a bullet.

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« Reply #35 on: September 29, 2004, 12:04:49 AM »
>After Genevea.
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« Reply #36 on: September 29, 2004, 01:53:00 AM »
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>After Genevea.


Yeah, and all the murder laws in the United States really stops people from being killed too.  War crimes are commited by both sides all the time.  It's a sad fact, but it is also war.  If you think the U.S. doesn't commit war crimes you're sadly mistaken.  If you think a little press badge means anything to the average enemy soldier, you're sadly mistaken.  About the only thing that is universal is the red cross, and that isn't even sacred everywhere and to everyone.

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« Reply #37 on: September 29, 2004, 03:12:14 AM »
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maybe it is just me, but i thoug it is a war crime to shoot innocent people during a war and in a war zone?


OK.When bullets are flying in a "war zone",how exactly do you know who the innocent people are?

There are no absolutes.

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« Reply #38 on: September 29, 2004, 04:28:48 AM »
That guy is so useful :D
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« Reply #39 on: September 29, 2004, 07:19:14 AM »
The reporter is too busy crapping his pants.  I know I would be.  Look how close he was to the initial impact.  At first he can't even remember what intersection he is at.

Let's face it.  The reporter rendering aid would have been a bigger story than him standing there not rendering aid.  He is clearly not thinking clearly at first.

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« Reply #40 on: September 29, 2004, 12:16:01 PM »
Clearly.

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« Reply #41 on: September 29, 2004, 01:00:09 PM »
If I was a reporter, and that happend...

I would of dropped everything and told the station to call 911, and run over to the accident and assist the injured..
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« Reply #42 on: September 29, 2004, 04:25:09 PM »
B17, do yourself a favor.


Grab a digital camera.


Go to your local paintball field and just go around taking pictures.



You cant tell the guys on the other team that you're not carrying a paintgun.


At the end of the day count how many purple spots you got in your body.


Then you will understand reality.

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« Reply #43 on: September 29, 2004, 04:32:53 PM »
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Different situation. I don't believe journalists should help soldiers.


Do you also agree that soldiers should not help Journalists?  If a Journalist is wounded on a battlefield should he be left alone to wait for a civilian aid?

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« Reply #44 on: September 29, 2004, 06:38:35 PM »
A soldier's duty includes protecting civilians, Journalist duties don't include protecting soldiers other than not revealing their battle plan.
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