D.C. personal protection act

[Ripsnort]

Congrats DC! Your crime rate should now drop as it has in 30+ other states that have adopted similar laws!

Voting 250-171, the House approved the D.C Personal Protection Act, which would end the District's ban on handguns and semi-automatic weapons, roll back registration requirements for ammunition and other firearms and decriminalize possession of unregistered weapons and carrying a gun in one's home or workplace. The bill also would prohibit the District's elected mayor and council from passing gun limits that exceed federal law or "discourage . . . the private ownership or use of firearms."

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[ra]

It must be freezing in hell right now.

[Otto]

Wow, what will the 'Victim Cult' do now?  You mean the citizens of DC have other options beyond just dieing quietly and waiting for the Police to make a report?

[lasersailor184]

Hey, if you ignore the murder rate, DC ain't that bad!

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
Congrats DC! Your crime rate should now drop as it has in 30+ other states that have adopted similar laws!

Don't hold your breath.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Sandman
Don't hold your breath.

I won't but I do believe statistics.  A few opponents of the Personal Protection Act claim that passing this measure will result in increased shootings, gun violence and crime overall — basically a return to the “Wild West.” However, these same claims have been made before passage of similar bills in other states, and, to date, zero of the 45 states with conceal-and-carry laws have repealed them. Crime statistics from the FBI show that overall violent crime, homicide, robbery and aggravated assault are lower in states with instituted conceal-and-carry laws than in those that do not have such laws.

[Nash]

I'm actually happy about this....

For once and for all, Washington is to become an almost definitive case pro/against guns and their effect on society.

Crime drops = pro gunners win.

Crime rises = pro no-guns win.

No more "How nice for you Australians, but that doesn't apply to the US."

No more "Guns are bad because...."

So, good. And finally.... And what better place to hold this little experiment than in the nation's capitol.

[Blooz]

WTG DC!

'bout time!

Criminals just hate armed victims.

Fight crime, shoot back!

[Nash]

Originally posted by Blooz
Criminals just hate armed victims.

And victims just hate armed criminals.


We'll see who's side has more, in a year or two.

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
I won't but I do believe statistics.  A few opponents of the Personal Protection Act claim that passing this measure will result in increased shootings, gun violence and crime overall — basically a return to the “Wild West.” However, these same claims have been made before passage of similar bills in other states, and, to date, zero of the 45 states with conceal-and-carry laws have repealed them. Crime statistics from the FBI show that overall violent crime, homicide, robbery and aggravated assault are lower in states with instituted conceal-and-carry laws than in those that do not have such laws.

Gotta compare apples to apples. Other states do not enjoy a 23% poverty rate. Until that changes, I don't think I'd cross the Potomac after dark and I don't recommend that you do either, white man.

As for conceal and carry laws... not relevant (if I understand the DC PPA). The PPA doesn't authorize concealed weapons.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Sandman

As for conceal and carry laws... not relevant (if I understand the DC PPA). The PPA doesn't authorize concealed weapons.

You are correct, this is not about concealed weapons, but more importantly it is about the rediculous law that DC has. If the bill passes the senate, it will no longer be illegal to possess a firearm in your home.

The city's homicide rate shows that its restrictions on guns are ineffective. The homicide rate was 72 percent higher in 2001 than it was in 1976, while the national rate had dropped by 36 percent.  Bottom line: the D.C. handgun ban has failed miserably. Prohibiting a person from having a firearm assembled and loaded at home for the purpose of self-defense is simply stunning.

[Sandman]

I think the bottom line is that they're poor and gun laws (or lack of) won't make much difference.


In three to five years, we'll know if you're right, I think.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Sandman
I think the bottom line is that they're poor and gun laws (or lack of) won't make much difference.


In three to five years, we'll know if you're right, I think.

If we start seeing less home invasions and rapes, it will be definate proof.

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
If we start seeing less home invasions and rapes, it will be definate proof.

...only if the poverty rate doesn't decline as well.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Sandman
...only if the poverty rate doesn't decline as well.

LOL!