Author Topic: 2 films... (Read 999 times)

Shane · « **on:** October 06, 2004, 01:46:02 AM »

1: how to use a yo-yo (low).

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/170_1097045028_film87.ahf

2: how to use a reversal to frighten off a higher bogie.

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/170_1097045130_film88.ahf

Hammy · « **Reply #1 on:** October 06, 2004, 06:19:29 AM »

any chance of turnin em into avi format shane?
My film viewer wont work

and i know your films are very good training material!!!

Shane · « **Reply #2 on:** October 06, 2004, 07:17:16 AM »

No avi program thingy... nor any skill in that sorta artsy-fartsy thingy.

The 2nd film is hardly worth watching anyway. It's more a commentary on the state of the game(rs), so to speak.

Wonder why your film viewer isn't working? You're aware that the "film" button on splash screen is no longer present, right? And that you need to use ahfilm.exe found in the AH2 main folder? If you made a shortcut to the old Ah1 ahfilm.exe you need to make a new one for the AH2 one, since ah2 films aren't backwards compatible with the ah1 viewer.

If you knew this already, then no idea why your ah2 viewer is hosed. Have you searched BBS for others who may have had similar problems and found a fix?

Furball · « **Reply #3 on:** October 06, 2004, 07:51:38 AM »

I didnt download the first, the second only shows the 1 reversal in the first minute. Seems more of a disguised kick at nomde than a training film

I use the same tactic you do in the 2nd film, although i tend to try and get them closer and come off the top sooner, and get a snapshot on them as they are flying past rather than as they climb away.

Shane, fancy coming to the DA sometime? i would like to learn a few more tricks, i get by on what i have improvised myself and would like to expand my knowledge and learn how to teach others. My prob is that being self taught i find it hard to describe what to do, and when to do it to others - and i know you have helped a lot of people in the past.

Shane · « **Reply #4 on:** October 06, 2004, 08:06:53 AM »

sure, if you see me on simply ask and we can go in the DA.

as for the second film, well

it seems the simple fact the reversal was made was sufficient to more or less stop the attack dead in it's tracks. if you watch the text closely, especially at the end, your irony meter should peg out.

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the first film is actually worth the download to see exactly what a low yo-yo is and how to apply it.

o0Stream140o · « **Reply #5 on:** October 06, 2004, 11:01:41 AM »

Shane, if you want me to turn it into Avi I can do it for you, but up to you.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #6 on:** October 06, 2004, 11:17:00 AM »

Wow Shane, any respect for you is now gone.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #7 on:** October 06, 2004, 11:18:02 AM »

Pretty good first video shane, though I gotta say ur aiming sucked towrads the end....

Anyway a tip for those viewing the video is to set view to external fixed and turn on the trails - that will show what was going on very well.

Shane · « **Reply #8 on:** October 06, 2004, 02:34:51 PM »

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Originally posted by o0Stream140o
Shane, if you want me to turn it into Avi I can do it for you, but up to you.

if you want to turn the first film into an avi, go ahead. hoprefully you'll be able to do it trails in the fixed view with some kind of panning and zoom out so people can get the overall idea of what a low yo-yo is and how it works.

a couple of cockpit shots with the bogey in view higher and me yo-yoing up and down in the circles would also be cool.

but you can direct and edit it however you want, hopefully in a way that shows the manuever.

thanks.

68DevilM · « **Reply #9 on:** October 06, 2004, 03:41:30 PM »

the first film?
yo-yo is what he was doing when fleeing right?

second one is easy

Shane · « **Reply #10 on:** October 06, 2004, 05:10:05 PM »

no, *i* was the one doing the yo-yo, which is basically using the vertical (up - high or down-low) in a turning situation to cut inside of a plane with a better sustained turn-rate.

a more pure representation would be found in a flat-turning situation on the deck, as the ki and i were also in form of rolling vertical scissors.

a high yo-yo would be when you're diving on an opponent and as he break turns, you go back up while also making a turn, which slows you down, allowing you to drop back in behind the bogey.

68DevilM · « **Reply #11 on:** October 07, 2004, 06:12:42 PM »

rgr got it

hey so ive been doing yo-yo's the whole time without anyone telling me how to.

hows that for overcome and adapt:D

mechanic · « **Reply #12 on:** October 07, 2004, 06:59:40 PM »

i thought you were meant to be like 'really watermelon hot' shane?

those videos sucked. especially the second one.

your reversal was sloppy and late, and the fight with the ki was not a tough one to do. so THATS what a yoyo is?? well, i been doing em in my sleep for an age.

better to fly the move than know the terms i say.

other than that, keep cool man!

batfink

Shane · « **Reply #13 on:** October 07, 2004, 07:40:59 PM »

i agree the 2nd one sucked.

as for the first, the ki had a nice alt advantage and tried to hold me in a spiral. the point of the second film was basically to show what a (low) yo-yo is. many people do moves, never realizing what they're called. so include youself as one who has just been ejumakated.

it makes actual training and explaining a lot easier if people are familiar with the terminology. surprisingly, a lot of people are afraid to ask for edification and/or too lazy to do some basic research.

and....

i never claim how great i am, i merely point how sucky most of you are.

mechanic · « **Reply #14 on:** October 07, 2004, 09:13:29 PM »

lol, too true about people not asking

personaly i ask all the time, but rarely remember

and for the record, my reversals are, 90% of the time, worse than your sloppy one

but thanks for lesson, i now know one of the tactics i use, on a more personal basis.

would like to duel ya at some point so you can find out how sucky i am

~~batfink~~