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« on: October 06, 2004, 06:05:23 PM »
Cheney said:
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"Now, in my capacity as vice president, I am the president of Senate, the presiding officer. I'm up in the Senate most Tuesdays when they're in session. The first time I ever met you was when you walked on the stage tonight."


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On Feb. 1, 2001, the vice president thanked Edwards by name at a Senate prayer breakfast and sat beside him during the event.

On April 8, 2001, Cheney and Edwards shook hands when they met off-camera during a taping of NBC's "Meet the Press," moderator Tim Russert said Wednesday on "Today."

On Jan. 8, 2003, the two met when the first-term North Carolina senator accompanied Elizabeth Dole to her swearing-in by Cheney as a North Carolina senator.


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« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2004, 06:07:15 PM »
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The Bush administration will not let stone cold fact get in their way of misleading the American public



The irony, the hypocricy..... delicious.
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« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2004, 06:14:31 PM »
A politician lied, OH MY GOD!  What in the hell has this world come to?!
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« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2004, 06:22:07 PM »
Somehow I dont think its going to effect much and even with that the fact remains that Edawrds (Senator Gone) has one of the worst attendance records in the senate which was the point he was making
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« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2004, 06:23:26 PM »
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Originally posted by rpm


The Bush administration will not let stone cold fact get in their way of misleading the American public.


and if elected, Neither will the Kerry administration
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« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2004, 06:38:13 PM »
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Somehow I dont think its going to effect much and even with that the fact remains that Edawrds (Senator Gone) has one of the worst attendance records in the senate which was the point he was making


Edwards has an 84+% voting record over six years, casting votes 100% of the time in two of those years.

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1999 Cast 371 out of 374 votes for a 99.2% voting record
2000 Cast 298 out of 298 votes for a 100% voting record
2001 Cast 377 out of 380 votes for a 99.2% voting record
2002 Cast 253 out of 253 votes for a 100% voting record
2003 Cast 281 out of 459 votes for a 61.2% voting record
2004 Cast 84 out of 198 votes for a 42.4% voting record
« Last Edit: October 06, 2004, 06:52:44 PM by MrLars »

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« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2004, 06:46:34 PM »
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 However, a Deseret Morning News review of committee records shows that Edwards' attendance was low even before he began his unsuccessful bid to become the Democrats' nominee for president or became Kerry's vice presidential candidate; his attendance has just gotten worse.
      For example, during the 107th Congress in 2001 and 2002 — before Edwards began his presidential campaign — he attended 10 of the 30 business meetings (for debate and votes) that were held after he joined the committee in July 2001. His 33 percent average attendance was half the 70 percent average for all committee members.
      That meant Edwards had the second-worst attendance for that pre-campaign period, behind Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., who attended one less meeting. Edwards was also tied with the late Sen. Strom Thurmond, D-S.C., who was then 99 years old and in failing health.
      When hearings are added into the total along with business meetings for that same period, Edwards finished fourth-lowest among 19 members, behind Thurmond, Joe Biden, D-Del., and Kennedy.
      Edwards attended 31 of 91 total meetings, or 34 percent. The committee attendance average was 49 percent.
      Once Edwards started seeking the White House, his attendance dropped further, giving him the lowest attendance on the committee both for the 2003-04 108th Congress, and for the entire three years since he joined the committee.
      Details for different categories include:

    * In the 108th Congress in 2003-04, Edwards attended three of 34 business meetings — worst on the committee — or 9 percent. The average for all committee members was 69 percent, or almost eight times higher.

    * Edwards did not stay for all of the meetings he did attend. Committee records show his votes were recorded "by proxy" at some of those meetings. After the committee achieves a quorum, busy senators often leave and allow a party leader to vote by proxy for them.

    * While Edwards attended the first five business meetings after he first was appointed to the committee, he attended only eight of the next 59 over three years.

    * In 2003-04, Edwards attended six of 87 hearings (7 percent), lowest on the committee. The average for all committee members was 28 percent, or four times higher.

    * That means for 2003-04, Edwards attended nine of 121 (7 percent) total committee meetings. The average for all committee members was 39 percent or five times higher.

    * For all three years Edwards has been on the committee, he attended 40 of 212 total committee meetings (19 percent), tying for worst with Biden. The committee average was 38 percent, or twice as high. (Hatch had the highest attendance average in that time, 76 percent.)

    * For those three years, Edwards attended 27 of 148 hearings (18 percent) and was second-lowest on the committee behind Biden. The committee average was 32 percent. He attended 13 of 64 (20 percent) business meetings — lowest on the committee. The committee average for such business meetings was 69 percent, more than three times higher..


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« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2004, 07:10:19 PM »
Talk about lies, it has been recorded and proven that Kerry told 7 lies during his debate with Bush.

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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2004, 07:25:38 PM »
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Originally posted by MrLars
Edwards has an 84+% voting record over six years, casting votes 100% of the time in two of those years.

Don't drink the Kool-Aid, Kool-Aid goggles make you look stupid, beer goggles make you forget that you are in fact stupid.

edit to add breakdown...

1999 Cast 371 out of 374 votes for a 99.2% voting record
2000 Cast 298 out of 298 votes for a 100% voting record
2001 Cast 377 out of 380 votes for a 99.2% voting record
2002 Cast 253 out of 253 votes for a 100% voting record
2003 Cast 281 out of 459 votes for a 61.2% voting record
2004 Cast 84 out of 198 votes for a 42.4% voting record


Dont confuse that "Voting" record with "Attendance" record.
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« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2004, 07:26:02 PM »
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Originally posted by MrLars
Edwards has an 84+% voting record over six years, casting votes 100% of the time in two of those years.

Don't drink the Kool-Aid, Kool-Aid goggles make you look stupid, beer goggles make you forget that you are in fact stupid.

edit to add breakdown...

1999 Cast 371 out of 374 votes for a 99.2% voting record
2000 Cast 298 out of 298 votes for a 100% voting record
2001 Cast 377 out of 380 votes for a 99.2% voting record
2002 Cast 253 out of 253 votes for a 100% voting record
2003 Cast 281 out of 459 votes for a 61.2% voting record
2004 Cast 84 out of 198 votes for a 42.4% voting record


Stupid? Heh I dont think so.

 
  Why is it you feel the need to start with personal attacks and name calling? Some sort of inferiority complex that somehow makes you feel like a bigger man perhaps?

 Search my threads. I defy you to find a single post of mine where I feel the need to resort to namecalling. And I disagree with people plenty.
  Search more and you will see that most of the better and more intelligent posters do not feel the need to resort to such infantile behavior.

If you can prove me wrong. On Any subject.
You may do so freely. I'm a big boy I can take it.

and we can banter back and forth just like anyone else.

You might also find that when proven wrong I am man enough to admit it

But if you insist on trying to hurling insults like that of a 4 year old I will simply consider the source and ignore it as though the response were meaningless and without substance. Just as I would a 4 year old.
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« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2004, 07:29:24 PM »
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Originally posted by RedTop
Dont confuse that "Voting" record with "Attendance" record.


thank you.

It would seem that I am not the only one with "Goggles"
Now wouldnt it
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« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2004, 07:31:42 PM »
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http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,595078450,00.html


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« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2004, 07:55:48 PM »
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
thank you.

It would seem that I am not the only one with "Goggles"
Now wouldnt it


Since I work in government...and it is a branch that I have access to certain things.......I know for a fact that votes recorded on a machine on something doesnt mean that the person was even there to have voted for it. Aides can push buttons for anyone that deems them fit to do so....All this while they are debating on the merits of 7 iron into a breeze or a low punched 8 iron under the wind.:lol

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« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2004, 07:58:58 PM »
Meetings suck.

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« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2004, 08:10:43 PM »
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Meetings suck.


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