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« Reply #30 on: October 06, 2004, 11:40:35 PM »
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LBJ wins re-election a mere year after a beloved president gets killed. To you, there is no happenstance involved. People were jazzed about LBJ all along.

I think history will record it differently. LBJ, like Ford, were presidents that.... fit in-between things....

Of the two, LBJ had quite an impact.... however....

You can't equate LBJ to Bush in almost any way. Certainly history will record them differently. LBJ *inherited*. Presidents after Bush will *inherit*.


wtf does that have to do with LBJ and his war in Vietnam? Nixon pulled out of Vietnam.

Nash, isn't LBJ the worst President in US history?

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« Reply #31 on: October 06, 2004, 11:41:15 PM »
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Nash, please go to bed and get some rest. I hate to see you looking so much like a retard.


Take my advice Nuke...

The sooner you drop this "I Win!" thing, and instead make your points *within* threads and not *about* threads, the more happily separated you will be from the "nutbar" category.

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« Reply #32 on: October 06, 2004, 11:41:23 PM »
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Pretty fast retraction there, my Arizonian friend. ;)


hey , you got me!!

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« Reply #33 on: October 06, 2004, 11:42:11 PM »
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Take my advice Nuke...

The sooner you drop this "I Win!" thing, and instead make your points *within* threads and not *about* threads, the more happily separated you will be from the "nutbar" category.


Did "I win" something?

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« Reply #34 on: October 06, 2004, 11:42:53 PM »
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Nash, isn't LBJ the worst President in US history?


No - Bush Jr. is...

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« Reply #35 on: October 06, 2004, 11:43:17 PM »
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hey , you got me!!


On that note... I'm out...

Nash... Nuke... good night.
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« Reply #36 on: October 06, 2004, 11:44:58 PM »
Nash, you said Bush was the worst President in history. Can you explain that in your own words?

I'm interested in hearing the straight info from such an informed guy.

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« Reply #37 on: October 06, 2004, 11:47:58 PM »
I predict another "go to bed Nash" moment. ( but will give him a few to google his anwser)

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« Reply #38 on: October 06, 2004, 11:50:10 PM »
Well... it was a hefty exaggeration to be sure...

But hefty exaggerations are like, my thing, man...

The last 100 years.

But to put that into my own words seems way futile.

You have gotten the chance to see the guy in action almost every day now, and not only do you think he is anything but a nightmare, you actually think the guy has game.

What could I possibly say to that?

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« Reply #39 on: October 06, 2004, 11:52:42 PM »
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George Bush will be remembered as far more than an architect.

He will go down (and I'm certain that I'll live to see it), as the worst President that the United States has ever had.


Well if he wins this November, I'll be stuck with "Bush is the best President, EVAR!" (I lost a bet w/Nuke) in my sig line for the next 4 years.
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« Reply #40 on: October 06, 2004, 11:53:11 PM »
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LBJ wins re-election a mere year after a beloved president gets killed. To you, there is no happenstance involved. People were jazzed about LBJ all along.
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LBJ did not run on Kennedy's record or on his memory.  He ran on his own very successful year in office.  If anything, voters and members of Congress especially grew tired by mid-1964 of Johnson using Kennedy as a lever for pushing through major legislative initiatives.  As one member of Congress famously mused six months after Kennedy's death, it was time for Johnson to bury the former president and run on his own name.

And so he did.  Along the way Republicans aided Johnson in his reelection bid by nominating the least electable person possible.

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« Reply #41 on: October 06, 2004, 11:54:13 PM »
Nash Nash Nash.....

Fugg me...I dig you....but christ, you have no freakin logic it seems.

Like I said..you remind me of the best friend I ever had. :)

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« Reply #42 on: October 07, 2004, 12:05:32 AM »
DMF - Pretend you have a crystal ball (I do it all the time)....

In one sentence, how will history mark Bush Jr.?

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« Reply #43 on: October 07, 2004, 12:11:17 AM »
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DMF - Pretend you have a crystal ball (I do it all the time)....

In one sentence, how will history mark Bush Jr.?


you already said that your view on Bush was huge exaggeration.

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« Reply #44 on: October 07, 2004, 12:17:13 AM »
In that he might not go down as the biggest failure of a President ever.

Only one of the biggest....

But... He may indeed turn out to be the biggest afterall...

Who knows... but picking one of the two outcomes as certainty was an exaggeration.