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Offline Dead Man Flying

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« Reply #45 on: October 07, 2004, 12:24:54 AM »
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DMF - Pretend you have a crystal ball (I do it all the time)....

In one sentence, how will history mark Bush Jr.?


If Bush loses in November, his presidency will probably be seen by most historians as below average.  I wouldn't put him together with such presidential failures as Buchanan or Grant though.  If he wins, who knows.

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« Reply #46 on: October 07, 2004, 12:31:15 AM »
If he loses, his Presidency will probably be seen by historians as below average.

Well, mkay fair 'nuff.
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« Reply #47 on: October 07, 2004, 12:34:26 AM »
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If he loses, his Presidency will probably be seen by historians as below average.

Well, mkay fair 'nuff.


cop out.

"If" he loses? What if he wins? How does the outcome of this election affect your view that Bush will go down as the worst of all Presidents? Doesn't make sense.
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« Reply #48 on: October 07, 2004, 12:38:12 AM »
The outcome of this election isn't even a question.

Nuke... As a friend, I implore you to start to go through the five grieving stages now. You will be ahead of the game.

Bush is going to get scorched in the historical record. The only question is one of degrees.
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« Reply #49 on: October 07, 2004, 12:38:40 AM »
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The US was attacked by Japan, yet we then went after Germany even though there were no Japanse in Germany.


Do you really not know that Germany declared war on the US first?
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« Reply #50 on: October 07, 2004, 12:41:11 AM »
LBJ did ride Kennedy's coattails, but he was also an extreemely popular politician beforehand. I think his sweeping social reforms under "The Great Society" offset Vietnam to a certain degree. That is something this administration is missing.
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« Reply #51 on: October 07, 2004, 12:42:18 AM »
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Do you really not know that Germany declared war on the US first?


Did you know that AL Qaeda declared war on the US before we attacked Afghanistan?
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« Reply #52 on: October 07, 2004, 12:43:17 AM »
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cop out.

"If" he loses? What if he wins? How does the outcome of this election affect your view that Bush will go down as the worst of all Presidents? Doesn't make sense.


Is this directed to Nash or to me?

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« Reply #53 on: October 07, 2004, 12:45:41 AM »
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The outcome of this election isn't even a question.

Nuke... As a friend, I implore you to start to go through the five grieving stages now. You will be ahead of the game.

Bush is going to get scorched in the historical record. The only question is one of degrees.


Hey Nash, I honesly do like ya....but you are so far wrong that you you seem insane.
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« Reply #54 on: October 07, 2004, 12:46:44 AM »
To me, I think...

Answer: If Bush won... that would be mitigating as far as the historical record goes, of course...

But not by very much....
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« Reply #55 on: October 07, 2004, 12:48:21 AM »
What about Johnson? He WAS Vietnam.
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« Reply #56 on: October 07, 2004, 12:50:11 AM »
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Is this directed to Nash or to me?

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Nash..who the hell are you? :)
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« Reply #57 on: October 07, 2004, 12:53:36 AM »
I am....


.......going to bed. :)

Take care.
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« Reply #58 on: October 07, 2004, 12:55:22 AM »
Me too...

night Nash.
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« Reply #59 on: October 07, 2004, 02:12:06 AM »
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LBJ did not run on Kennedy's record or on his memory.  He ran on his own very successful year in office.  If anything, voters and members of Congress especially grew tired by mid-1964 of Johnson using Kennedy as a lever for pushing through major legislative initiatives.  As one member of Congress famously mused six months after Kennedy's death, it was time for Johnson to bury the former president and run on his own name.

And so he did.  Along the way Republicans aided Johnson in his reelection bid by nominating the least electable person possible.

-- Todd/Leviathn [/B]


I well remember the line "JFK proposed many things, LBJ accomplished them all."  Don't you turkeys forget LBJ was prez during the removal of the US school segration shame.

Goldwater was probably the last honest conservative presidential candidate.  I didn't agree with any of his issues, but he was honest.

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