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Offline straffo

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« Reply #60 on: October 07, 2004, 03:26:18 AM »
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good point

The US was attacked by Japan, yet we then went after Germany even though there were no Japanse in Germany.


Not right, Germany declared war , you didn't went on Germany.
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December 11, 1941

The President's Message

To the Congress of the United States:

          On the morning of Dec. 11 the Government of Germany, pursuing its course of world conquest, declared war against the United States. The long-known and the long-expected has thus taken place. The forces endeavoring to enslave the entire world now are moving toward this hemisphere. Never before has there been a greater challenge to life, liberty and civilization. Delay invites great danger. Rapid and united effort by all of the peoples of the world who are determined to remain free will insure a world victory of the forces of justice and of righteousness over the forces of savagery and of barbarism. Italy also has declared war against the United States.

          I therefore request the Congress to recognize a state of war between the United States and Germany, and between the United States and Italy.

                                                                                                Franklin D. Roosevelt

The War Resolution

          Declaring that a state of war exists between the Government of Germany and the government and the people of the United States and making provision to prosecute the same.

          Whereas the Government of Germany has formally declared war against the government and the people of the United States of America:

          Therefore, be it Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, that the state of war between the United States and the Government of Germany which has thus been thrust upon the United States is hereby formally declared; and the President is hereby authorized and directed to employ the entire naval and military forces of the government to carry on war against the Government of Germany; and to bring the conflict to a successful termination, all of the resources of the country are hereby pledged by the Congress of the United States
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« Reply #61 on: October 07, 2004, 03:32:13 AM »
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Did you know that AL Qaeda declared war on the US before we attacked Afghanistan?


Did you know the US 'won' in Afganistan, but Al Qaeda still operates rather well?
Did you know the US & allies won in Germany and the leftover nazis became unable to operate well?
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« Reply #62 on: October 07, 2004, 04:50:08 AM »
Nuke,.

Bush's invasion of Iraq will go down as the worst foreign policy blunder in American history.


"Why of course the people don't want war ... But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger." -- Hermann Goering, Nazi leader, during the Nuremberg Trials after World War II



...-Gixer
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« Reply #63 on: October 07, 2004, 07:13:11 AM »
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Me too...

night Nash.


Why don't you just get it over with and ask him on a date?
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« Reply #64 on: October 07, 2004, 07:13:50 AM »
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Did you know the US 'won' in Afganistan, but Al Qaeda still operates rather well?
Did you know the US & allies won in Germany and the leftover nazis became unable to operate well?


I'd love to see your sources for that.
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« Reply #65 on: October 07, 2004, 07:36:03 AM »
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I'd love to see your sources for that.


I'm sure Al Qaeda will show the sources sometime in the future... in the USA.

They just don't tend to strike every half a decade.
It's been already proven several times.
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« Reply #66 on: October 07, 2004, 07:42:01 AM »
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I'm sure Al Qaeda will show the sources sometime in the future... in the USA.

They just don't tend to strike every half a decade.
It's been already proven several times.


Ahhh, you mean you made it up.  

You know your point sucks when you have to make up facts to support it.  Do you work for cBS?
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« Reply #67 on: October 07, 2004, 07:56:30 AM »
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Ahhh, you mean you made it up.  

You know your point sucks when you have to make up facts to support it.  Do you work for cBS?


What.. did you really think Al Qaeda ceased to exist when their camps in Afganistan were rolled over?
Isn't there already enough obvious sources in regular news... I thought you did watch the news...  or do you watch the channel which is solely for Bush propaganda?
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« Reply #68 on: October 07, 2004, 08:06:22 AM »
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Do you really not know that Germany declared war on the US first?


Do you really not know that Iraq failed to up hold the end of hostilities agreement and that GW1 was never formally terminated.

So in essence the Iraq war was just the reengagement of action due to non-compliance with the truce agreements from the first war as approved by the UN.
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« Reply #69 on: October 07, 2004, 08:07:11 AM »
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What.. did you really think Al Qaeda ceased to exist when their camps in Afganistan were rolled over?
Isn't there already enough obvious sources in regular news... I thought you did watch the news...  or do you watch the channel which is solely for Bush propaganda?


If there are so many of those examples, please provide me with a few.
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« Reply #70 on: October 07, 2004, 09:03:05 AM »
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11 March 2004 stands out as the most obvious example.


1 Bombing = "runs very well"?
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« Reply #71 on: October 07, 2004, 09:28:44 AM »
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Why don't you just get it over with and ask him on a date?


You seem to have this homo fantasy. What's your deal...trying to hook guys up over the internet?
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« Reply #72 on: October 07, 2004, 09:38:52 AM »
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You seem to have this homo fantasy. What's your deal...trying to hook guys up over the internet?


Nah, you're doing pretty well on your own.  You don't need my help.
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« Reply #73 on: October 07, 2004, 09:38:53 AM »
Nuke you do have some strange bbs relationship with Nash.

Just look how you jumped all over me the other day when I brought up Nash's inability to explain his support of Kerry as an example...

Im certainly not saying it's queer but it sure is odd...
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Offline Martlet

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« Reply #74 on: October 07, 2004, 09:39:32 AM »
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Nuke you do have some strange bbs relationship with Nash.

Just look how you jumped all over me the other day when I brought up Nash's inability to explain his support of Kerry as an example...

Im certainly not saying it's queer but it sure is odd...


Exactly my point.
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