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Offline Ripsnort

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Why France, Germany and Russia are pissed about Iraq
« on: October 07, 2004, 07:36:27 AM »
..we messed up a perfectly good scam!

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The report by Charles Duelfer, head of the Iraq Survey Group, alleges the Iraqi government manipulated the U.N. program from 1996 to 2003 in order to acquire billions of dollars in illicit gains and to import illegal goods, including acquiring parts for missile systems.

The alleged schemes included an Iraqi system for allocating lucrative oil vouchers, which permitted recipients to purchase certain amounts of oil at a profit.

Benon Sevan, the former chief of the U.N. program, is among dozens of people who allegedly received the vouchers, according to the report, which said Saddam personally approved the list.

The secret voucher program was dominated by Russian, French and Chinese recipients, in that order, with Saddam spreading the wealth widely to prominent business men, politicians, foreign government ministries and political parties, the report said.


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« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2004, 07:55:55 AM »
you still searching for something to justify the war?
you found something. *g*

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« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2004, 08:10:09 AM »
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Originally posted by Gh0stFT
you still searching for something to justify the war?
you found something. *g*

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There was plenty of that.  Why don't you ask Saddams sons? ;)

Offline Muckmaw1

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« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2004, 08:23:14 AM »
Hey, the war was unjustified, right?

Alright, let's put Saddam back.

We've got him holed up. He's rested. Let's put him back in Baghdad, pay him reparations, and start rebuilding his palaces.

Now, who would like to make that argument.

If the war was unjustified, then we need to do all of the above.

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« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2004, 08:37:17 AM »
Americans whining about corruption in foreign oil deals? The irony is killing me :lol

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« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2004, 08:42:10 AM »
Vouchers

LOL
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« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2004, 08:55:39 AM »
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you still searching for something to justify the war?



Lebensraum.

Worked for you guys.

I wonder if getting rid of your insane megolmanic genocidal idot and imposing democracy on you would meet todays global test of legitamacy.  Becuase god knows we shouldnt act unilaterally.

Oh I see the Iraqis dont deserve democracy, or they should provide it for themselves.  Just like the Germans and Japanese did in the 40s, when the population rose up and demanded democracy.

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« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2004, 09:57:06 AM »
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The USA reluctantly joins WWII when they get attacked by Japan and Germany declares war, after the rest of the world had been fighting for two years... and Jeezy calls it a unilateral action to bring democracy to the German and Japanese peoples (whom you killed by the hundreds of thousands and even nuked btw.). Top notch education there Jeezy.


Talk about playing loose with the facts!!

OK class you have one paragraph to describe WW2 and 1 minute to write it!

On your mark...Set....Go.....

Bush is eeevvviiilllll, there fore ameerika is eevvviiillll....

Done....

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« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2004, 10:08:00 AM »
please back to topic, dont know why this fliped into a wwii thread.
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« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2004, 10:11:35 AM »
Yep, we did that. Killed them by the hundreds of thousands and nuked them. Stopped them from killing by the millions and imposing brutal conditions on everyone who came under their control.

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« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2004, 10:12:27 AM »
And the Yanks go : "Lalalala Lalalala"
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« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2004, 10:21:54 AM »
The price of crude oil hit 52$/barell yesterday , almost double than before this war in Irak, now my questions;
  1. Don't you think the reason #1 for the high  oil price is this war in Irak, ??
  2. How many more "oil hits" can the world economy take ?  Is it possible the world economy to colapse for this reason?

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« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2004, 10:37:13 AM »
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The price of crude oil hit 52$/barell yesterday , almost double than before this war in Irak, now my questions;
  1. Don't you think the reason #1 for the high  oil price is this war in Irak, ??
  2. How many more "oil hits" can the world economy take ?  Is it possible the world economy to colapse for this reason?


1. Nope

2a. As many as they need to
2b. Nope, you think the world would stand by and let that happen?

all we'd have to do is dangle "oil vouchers" in front of Germany and France and they'd roll tanks  - LOL
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« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2004, 10:40:06 AM »
So.. are you saying that France, Germany, Russia and China are just smallish criminals, whereas the USA decided to beat them all by being the biggest and baddest criminal of the bunch?

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« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2004, 11:21:41 AM »
Adjusted for inflation, Crude is currently well below the 1981 high of $31.00 per barrel.

I believe if memort serves me, it's about $15.00 lower, in fact.

The price of crude is being driven up by:

1) Concerns over demand for home heating oil this year in the US
2) Unrest in Nigeria
3) Iraq and the greater Middle East
4) Terrorism concerns in Saudi
5) Iraqi pipeline sabotage incidents
6) Hurricanes damaging rigs and shutting down production in the gulf.