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« Reply #120 on: October 13, 2004, 10:39:56 PM »
The criteria I use is my opinion....nothing more. I failed Mindreading.
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« Reply #121 on: October 13, 2004, 10:40:24 PM »
>>He will score major points with latinos for bringing up that there is in fact a need for humainitarian concernes as well as security and economic.
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Hmm, he might want to forget that. Aside from outsourcing jobs, he wants to import cheap labor from Mexico? I don't know how you're going to float that past to the Americans working for 5.15 an hour and struggling only for benifits, not even higher pay - just some sort of security. Times get tough when you get a $700 pell grant to fund your entire college education.
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« Reply #122 on: October 13, 2004, 10:40:54 PM »
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I failed Mindreading.



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« Reply #123 on: October 13, 2004, 10:42:04 PM »
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I guess I'm confused by what criteria you are using for calling "win/draw/lose".

For your own self? You are of course welcome to your opinion.

But are these calls how you think America in general saw it?

Every single indication will be, tomorrow, that Kerry took it yet again. Double-digit sized.

So.... When you say "Bush won", do you mean that "To me, I liked what he said and he won"... or are you seriously saying that this debate will go down in history as a Bush win?


If you are referring to a "true debate" wich I don't beleive these were then yes.....Kerry argued his points better than Bush did.

When I say Bush won I believe Bush matched kerry in quality of answers but not delivery.....Bush won on content.  His answers are my answers:

Abortion
Gay Marriage amendment
Border
Health Care
Social Security
Minimum Wage
Education

All of these subjects he had better answers for.  

It's the answers that matter to me....not how well you argue them.  "this president" doesn't help you when you actually ARE President.

Just my opinion Nash....take it as you will.  

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« Reply #124 on: October 13, 2004, 10:42:42 PM »
I think Kerry won the third debate. I do think Bush did very well on some of the questions. Suprisingly well but I still think Kerry overall had better more practical answers that I could understand and also performed better during the debate.
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« Reply #125 on: October 13, 2004, 10:50:11 PM »
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« Reply #126 on: October 13, 2004, 10:50:44 PM »
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« Reply #127 on: October 13, 2004, 10:51:41 PM »
I disagree MrCoffee....here's why.


During this debate and the last three almost all of Kerry's answers started out the same....."This president"

Eventually (and more so in this debate)  he started working in "I have a plan"

Tonite I feel Kerry finally explained his plan(s) to the American People and I do not think they will work or are in our best interests.

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« Reply #128 on: October 13, 2004, 10:58:11 PM »
to be succesful in life you can't just sit in school and do nonthing.  I am just lucky i have parents who will buy me what i need.  many of the smart kids that i know come from poor families and they have to get a job to buy their stuff.  You can't say this isn't true because i see it on a day to day basis.  Raising mimium wage would help those majority buy their stuff.  Also consider the parents.

Do you honestly think they want to pay for a kids gas for what 2 years?  Espically with prices skyrocketing as it is.  no way in hell!  As it is i have had my GPA for Gas raised from like 3.5 to 3.8.  I have never gotten that good and most likely wont.  Closest i've gone was like 3.5 something.  Also what do you think i do all summer?  sit in front of this computer and watch you argue over presidents?  It is called a summer job and it is my savior.  Well besides the Anually camping trip to yellowstone area.

Point your parents can't pay for everything you do.  you have got to take responsiblity to pay for your stuff.  Like just today i lost my fuggin calculator and will have to pay for a new one.  I will have to buy a new one unless i find it, which i wont.  Waiting 6 weeks to make 15$ lousy dollars mowing lawns.  please.  Raising mimium wage would dramaticly improve my life.  And also the lives of millions of others.

I find it pointless to just take money away from my parents that could be spending on say remodeling the house.  Which we are in the process of doing.  I should make my own money and not take away from my parents.  That is called responsibility.  You can be a lazy dope and do nonthing in HS.  And go to college.  But see there is another positive fo getting a job in HS.  You might accutally be able to pay for college.  I recently asked Rip how much it cost to go to the Univeristy of Washington.  He said around 6000$ a year.  If mimium wage was raise that could easily be met.

I see more benefits than bad things in raising it.  People can pay off college loans easier.  Get a head start in the money game.  Improve living conditions.

Maybe i am the only one who sees it this way.  Mimium wage raise would be better.
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« Reply #129 on: October 13, 2004, 10:59:01 PM »
btw Liz - that's a great drawing she did.

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« Reply #130 on: October 13, 2004, 11:02:28 PM »
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Tonite I feel Kerry finally explained his plan(s) to the American People and I do not think they will work or are in our best interests.


He explained it but he still has MAJOR problems explaining on how he is going to pay for all the stuff in his plan.

the most accurate thing said by either side was the difference in monies.

All these plans cost money and his plans dont include enough money from either taxes or savings combined to pay for them
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« Reply #131 on: October 13, 2004, 11:05:38 PM »
I'm gonna get on my bike and ride over to Tempe and try to get on camera.

Tune to Fox....I'm gonna be the naked guy with a pumpkin on my  head jumping up and down behind Sean Hannity.

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« Reply #132 on: October 13, 2004, 11:06:58 PM »
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to be succesful in life you can't just sit in school and do nonthing.  I am just lucky i have parents who will buy me what i need.  many of the smart kids that i know come from poor families and they have to get a job to buy their stuff.  You can't say this isn't true because i see it on a day to day basis.  Raising mimium wage would help those majority buy their stuff.  Also consider the parents.

Do you honestly think they want to pay for a kids gas for what 2 years?  Espically with prices skyrocketing as it is.  no way in hell!  As it is i have had my GPA for Gas raised from like 3.5 to 3.8.  I have never gotten that good and most likely wont.  Closest i've gone was like 3.5 something.  Also what do you think i do all summer?  sit in front of this computer and watch you argue over presidents?  It is called a summer job and it is my savior.  Well besides the Anually camping trip to yellowstone area.

Point your parents can't pay for everything you do.  you have got to take responsiblity to pay for your stuff.  Like just today i lost my fuggin calculator and will have to pay for a new one.  I will have to buy a new one unless i find it, which i wont.  Waiting 6 weeks to make 15$ lousy dollars mowing lawns.  please.  Raising mimium wage would dramaticly improve my life.  And also the lives of millions of others.

I find it pointless to just take money away from my parents that could be spending on say remodeling the house.  Which we are in the process of doing.  I should make my own money and not take away from my parents.  That is called responsibility.  You can be a lazy dope and do nonthing in HS.  And go to college.  But see there is another positive fo getting a job in HS.  You might accutally be able to pay for college.  I recently asked Rip how much it cost to go to the Univeristy of Washington.  He said around 6000$ a year.  If mimium wage was raise that could easily be met.

I see more benefits than bad things in raising it.  People can pay off college loans easier.  Get a head start in the money game.  Improve living conditions.

Maybe i am the only one who sees it this way.  Mimium wage raise would be better.


I don't know why I insist on attemping to open your eyes....but here goes.


You've been to a shopping mall right?  well how about a supermarket?  Gas station?

When large corporations...AND small business owners have to pay their employees more they do not eat this expense.

They pass it on to YOU the consumer.....and your PARENTS...consumers as well.

EVERYONE would be paying more for grocieries because Albertson's has to pay their teenage baggers more money.

People who don't even have minimum wage employees suffer as well because THEIR suppliers have to rais prices.  This raises costs on EVERYTHING for just about EVERYONE.

SO that extra $20 a week they are now making them is eaten up by $100 in more expenses.

Minimum wage is just that MINIMUM!  It's not intended for you to raise two kids on its to protect people from makeing a quarter an hour in a sweat shop.  

Instead of helping poor people become even more poor Bush was sudgesting empowering them with new skills to earn better wages.....to keep kids from going through 4 years of High School to make $6 an hour cause they still can't read!

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« Reply #133 on: October 13, 2004, 11:08:31 PM »
The last time the minimum wage was raised gas was around .85 a gallon. Raising the minimun wage to keep up with the cost of living is just common sense.
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« Reply #134 on: October 13, 2004, 11:12:00 PM »
Tell me who has ever been  able to live off of minimum wage. Minimum wage only benifits teenagers and illegals pretty much.

Why work for minimum wage if you can just get welfare?