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Offline Karnak

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« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2004, 03:03:43 PM »
P-38F or P-38G or P-38H and redo the P-38L to AH2 standards.
N1K1-J and redo the N1K2-J to AH2 standards.
B-17F and redo the B-17G to AH2 standards.
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« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2004, 03:15:36 PM »
Here just give the axsis this high tech fighter and call it good.:D

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« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2004, 03:55:29 PM »
Is that a cobra I see in the background?

Anyways, my picks, are:

Me-210 and 410
P-61 (dont need night for this thing to be useful).
Cannon-armed Ju-88's
Ju-188
Ju-52
Ju-87G
Meteor I (Low perk jet maybe? Not as powerful as a '262, and I'm sure as heck not asking for a Meteor III)
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« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2004, 03:57:10 PM »
Yep that's an AH1 in the background and a T-birdd in the foreground.
 The JU88p is the anti tank version.

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« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2004, 04:39:55 PM »
gear.. not that it bothers me, but some people may not like your nazi flag avatar.  just a heads up, better don that flak jacket ;)
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« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2004, 12:48:20 AM »
Bring in some Air Warrior planes.....

A-26
P-38J
Betty
KI-43 Oscar

and of course WWI planes

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« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2004, 02:44:03 PM »
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Originally posted by MRPLUTO
I hope that HTC will concentrate on bombers, although I've read they require much more work to develop than fighters.  Nevertheless:

Priority should be given to:

Heinkel He-111H-3
Petlyakov Pe-2
S.M. 79
Mitsubishi G4M2 Betty

I know we don't really need another American bomber, but it would be nice to have something besides the Ar-234 to spend buff perks on.  So, I vote for the

B-29 Superfortress (nukes not included)

Other bombers:

Ju-87D-5 (the Stuka with 2 x 37mm)
Bristol Blenheim IV
Vickers Wellington
Ju-52
North American B-25C Mitchell

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We need more early war fighters, not more uberplanes.

I'd give priority to:

P-39 N & Q
Nakajima Ki-43 Hayabusa / Oscar
Lockheed P-38 E or F
Mig-3, Yak-1, or Yak 3

Other fighters:

Me-410
Bristol Beaufighter
F2A Brewster Buffalo
Nakajima Ki-44 Shoki / Tojo
Kawasaki Ki-45 Toryu / Nick
Dewoitine D. 520
Polikarpov I-16 Rata

The Heinkel He-219 and North American P-61 Black Widow are very popular choices, but they are both night fighters, and until Aces High has night combat events with friendly icons only (that is, no enemy icons), I'd wait on them.

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As for GVs, I'd suggest the Sherman, the Churchill, and some kind of self-propelled artillery, 105mm size.


MRPLUTO


Excellent list, excpet for the B29.  Ban the B29!!!  Also note that the Ju87D5 did not necessarily designate the 37mm version but the wing length, the D5 was a short wing (same wing as the Ju87B) and the G was the longer wing version.  Either one could have the 37mm pods hung on them, but IIRC, the Ju87G was used more with the 37mm because of the longer wing...

And I would also add in the J2M3 Raiden (Jack) :-)

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« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2004, 04:20:51 PM »
What's so bad about a perk B-29? With a two or three hundred perk price-tag, it would probably be the -only- buff in this game that gets used routinely as intended: At high alttitude, in level bombing :D
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« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2004, 07:46:33 AM »
And we already have aircraft that can catch the B29, so I must say I agree.

Hehe, the Condor was not a bad idea as well, it saw quite some use in the N-Atlantic theatre.
Anyone have an idea about production numbers?
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2004, 10:16:54 AM »
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Hehe, the Condor was not a bad idea as well, it saw quite some use in the N-Atlantic theatre.
Anyone have an idea about production numbers?

The Condor would be useless.  It was so fragile it was not unheard of for it to break in half during normal landings.  It was a passenger aircraft that was converted to a warplane and horribly overstressed as a result of the additional weight.  Imagine a C-47 converted to be a bomber and you'll pretty much have an idea of the capability of the Fw200.
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« Reply #25 on: October 25, 2004, 03:32:53 PM »
Oh, dear. Never heard that about the Condor. :(
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #26 on: October 25, 2004, 04:30:33 PM »
Hi Karnak,

>Imagine a C-47 converted to be a bomber and you'll pretty much have an idea of the capability of the Fw200.

You're thinking of the B-18 ;-)

Actually, the C-47/Fw 200 comparison is a good one as the Fw 200 was explicitely developed as a DC-3 competitor.

>The Condor would be useless.  It was so fragile it was not unheard of for it to break in half during normal landings.  It was a passenger aircraft that was converted to a warplane and horribly overstressed as a result of the additional weight.  

Despite its problems, the bomber conversion was a great success, especially the strengthened Fw 200C. I'd say it aged too quickly in combat service, but that's only a problem if you're running an extended campaign. Facing allied fighters, the Fw 200 actually gave a good account of itself.

When it cames to taking battle damage, I'd imagine the large fuel tanks in the centre fuselage were a worse problem than the weak structure.

Tactically, the low speed and operating altitude of the Fw 200 probably would be the main reason they were unattractive for standard bomber operations. The bomb load isn't any higher than that of the Ju 88 either, so there's really no reason except range to choose a Fw 200 over a twin-engined bomber.

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« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2004, 04:58:17 PM »
HoHun,

Yeah, I knew it was designed as a direct competitor.  My analogy was not accidental. ;)


The only thing it would have over the Ju88A-4 is range, everything else favors the Ju88A-4.  IIRC the Fw200 had a 4,000lb bomb load, noticably less than the Ju88A-4's in AH.

As to how it did against Allied fighters, I understood that the one way, freighter launched Hurricanes did a job on them whenever they encountered them.  I also understand that Beaufighters and Mosquitos saw them as fat, juicy and easy kills.
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« Reply #28 on: October 25, 2004, 05:01:12 PM »
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Excellent list, excpet for the B29.  Ban the B29!!!  Also note that the Ju87D5 did not necessarily designate the 37mm version but the wing length, the D5 was a short wing (same wing as the Ju87B) and the G was the longer wing version.  Either one could have the 37mm pods hung on them, but IIRC, the Ju87G was used more with the 37mm because of the longer wing...

 


The G-1 was a conversion of the D-3  (short wing span). The G-2 was from the D-5 (long wing span).

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« Reply #29 on: October 25, 2004, 05:06:21 PM »
Hi Karnak,

>As to how it did against Allied fighters, I understood that the one way, freighter launched Hurricanes did a job on them whenever they encountered them.  

Well, I think the usual result was "Condor chased off" :-)

The Martlet pilots - much better armed than the Hurricane pilots - certainly considered the Condors a handful.

>I also understand that Beaufighters and Mosquitos saw them as fat, juicy and easy kills.

With that kind of firepower, no doubt :-) But with that kind of firepower, which bomber wouldn't have been?

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