It's going to be a messy election......

[Tinpot]

I think I did Nuke! or maybe you only comprehend one line blaze type answers.

Read Gixers responses he is entirely right. He lives on the other side of the planet to me yet still bothers to understand other parts of the world. Why can't you Americans do that?


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There's nothing so good as a good debate. It gets the brain working and if you are ready to listen, teaches you something.

Don't know who said that but is true ;o)

[NUKE]

Originally posted by Tinpot
I think I did Nuke! or maybe you only comprehend one line blaze type answers.

Read Gixers responses he is entirely right. He lives on the other side of the planet to me yet still bothers to understand other parts of the world. Why can't you Americans do that?


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There's nothing so good as a good debate. It gets the brain working and if you are ready to listen, teaches you something.

Don't know who said that but is true ;o)

Well, America is on the other side of the world also. Why not try arguing with your own intelect?

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by Tinpot
He lives on the other side of the planet to me yet still bothers to understand other parts of the world. Why can't you Americans do that?

It is intresting Nuke, that in one breath your nemesis can chastize Americans for not understanding attitudes of foreigners and then doesn't understand Americans, who to him are foreigners.

[Tinpot]

mmm yes perhaps you are right there. I don't understand you as well as I ought to.

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Doesn't mean i think US foreign policy or Bush's version is right though.

[Holden McGroin]

As Blair and Bush share Iraqi policy, check up on British Foreign policy history just for fun.

Provisional Govt of Iraq 1920, Iraqi King Faisal, Anglo-Iranian Oil Co., Balfour decision of Palestine, 1961 Kuwaiti independence from Britian.

The western european mindset has been fooling around with the arabic mindset for a long time, and the two don't necessarily mesh well.

The reason Columbus sailed west to get to the orient 500 years ago was to find a way to get spices without dealing with Arabs.

[Tinpot]

I know that the UK hardly has a great history in meddling. Hopefully we ought to have learnt by now but unfortunately we haven't. Well our leaders anyhow.

The point is we ought to get out now.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Nash
If I didn't care about you AKIron, then I'd say if that's the way that you want it, then that's the way I want it more.

Thankfully, I think y'all are gonna save yourselves from yourselves this time around.

What makes you so certain Nash?
You figger out a way to hack into the electoral college computer system?

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Tinpot

Oh and drediok yes we did help make the mess though If I remember Correctly when palastine was under our influence we tried to turn the ships away and limit jewish immigration into that country, only to be told in no uncertain terms by our bigger and stronger freinds ( because we had been brought to our knees fighting hitler alone for 3 years ) to let them in.

For the record what was done to those people was a crime against humanity but that doesn't excuse their modern day crime against the Palastinians. Cmon you'd be pretty pissed off if someone bulldosed your home.

Anyhow I'm praying that Bush doesn't get elected and that Kerry actualy does give a damn about what we all think.

 Well it goes a little farther back thenRecent history Lets also not forget a little thing called "the Crusades" LOL

If I remmber correctly the US didnt even recognise Isreal as a country untill the 1960's

I'm forced to agree with you on the Palistine issue to a certain extent. but I see wrongs on both sides there mostly due to poor leadership on both sides.
But as the number of Isreal born palastinian citizens grows I suspect this will either change, or force Isreal to take the same steps Hitler did.

I beleive I remember readins somewhere that at the current rate of population growth by 2020 Isreali born Palistinians will outnumber Isreali Jews

in any event it Should be at the very least...Interesting

[lazs2]

a little confusing here tinpot... you say we are to blame for englands insignificance in the world because we waited till we were attacked by an "invasion fleet" in WWII yet...

you chastise us for trying to stop a tyrant from terrorism and domination of his neighbors?   Is it that we only help when britan wants it that matters?

And... I would say that like allmost all socialist subjects.... you don't understand the free American.

In a lot of ways we are alike but not in that.  I believe that the UK still operates on a class rule and royalty.   I believe that the people simply fight for scraps from the royals tables (socialism).   In the U.S. we despise classes and consantly bemoan increases in even economic differences.

As for being interested in the rest of the worlds politics... why bother?  they are boring and unremarkable.  Why you bother with ours is beyond me.

lazs

[Torque]

Originally posted by Tinpot
I know that the UK hardly has a great history in meddling. Hopefully we ought to have learnt by now but unfortunately we haven't. Well our leaders anyhow.

The point is we ought to get out now.

The lessons learned from American foreign policy, it's easy to overthrow and/or suppress a democracy but a dictatorship is another story.

[Gixer]

Originally posted by lazs2
a little confusing here tinpot... you say we are to blame for englands insignificance in the world

How is England Insignificant in the world? Comments like that, only confirm your arrogance. And what some people see as typically  American.



...-Gixer

[Zippatuh]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
Zip, good to see you back in the OC. We share very similiar feelings regarding US politics.    Wish we lived closer so we could tip another back...and another...another...designate d driver anyone?

Been awhile man.  I haven’t been up much either so I rarely see anyone.

You have to convince the wife to do the family thing again and head back to Lee’s Summit.  I might even be able to rustle up Rude, Toad, Stringer, and Milo.

We’ll flip a coin for the designated driver… of course we can always call a cab .

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Zippatuh
Been awhile man.  I haven’t been up much either so I rarely see anyone.

You have to convince the wife to do the family thing again and head back to Lee’s Summit.  I might even be able to rustle up Rude, Toad, Stringer, and Milo.

We’ll flip a coin for the designated driver… of course we can always call a cab .

Absolutely. We'll be back soon. Never know, maybe next year...Stringer won't come though (aka Cobra)

[Scootter]

Originally posted by slimm50
Speakin of Florida, boy, whatta screwed-up state. They whinin already about how things aren't gonna go right. Whoever's runnin the election process down there is a total boob.

It's not Floridians it's displaced Folks from New York that have caused the problems, look at the demographics of where the problems were from, Palm Beach, Broward and Miami counties.

No problem in Ocala or any other Florida cities,

guess the problem is the Forken Yanks from Hilierys state.