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Offline Stang

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« Reply #30 on: October 24, 2004, 11:48:20 AM »
Beet I thought you hated the hordes more than you hated furballers?
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« Reply #31 on: October 24, 2004, 12:48:38 PM »
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Beet I thought you hated the hordes more than you hated furballers?
I do hate the hordes! That's why I *liked* the pizza map - there was much less hording on it because the horders couldn't be arsed to fly 6 minutes to the next airfield.

I don't hate the furballers! Mars01 is a furballer, and I love him to pieces.
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« Reply #32 on: October 24, 2004, 01:05:18 PM »
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nopoop, Sax is not correct.  The Horde is a figment of a poor sports imagination.

As in everything it's your point of view.  You can't win the war without taking the fields.  

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I've never in my life been a poor sport--poor at sports yes , including AH-which I consider a game therefore a sport.

The Horde is real and growing but is a part of AH and as has happened in AH in the past it will change to some other figment.

The only " War " in AH is the continual downward spiral of Sportsmanship within the Game and on the BBS.

Last nite approx. 20 players battled it out at 8k to the deck in groups of 3-4 with no other players jumping in where they weren't needed---except when Leviathon needed a group hug to take him out--lottsa Salutes and friendly Vox and plain old good spotsmanship made for a very enjoyable evening.

In my opinion the map allowed every type of player to enjoy there brand of fun last nite.
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Offline TexMurphy

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« Reply #33 on: October 24, 2004, 02:10:32 PM »
@All of you guys and gals

You know what is interesting.

During my days of gaming Ive found that the best enemies arnt the ones who preach "fair play", actually these are the worst enemies one can have. Because the "failr play" extreamists will whine and yell when ever they see something that is a tad unfair.

This includes tactics that are better then their tactics. "They beat us through doing something we didnt expect and havent seen before, it has to be lame".

Im not saying I like lamers but a its all about give and take.

You have to be on the reciving end of supperior tactics and learn to deal with it as well as beeing on the giving end of them.

Fair play is not about how you fight its about how you respect your opponent. A game cant be 100% ballanced and fights cant be 100% fair all the time and that isnt the point of a game. The point of a game is that EVERYONE who plays it should have fun.

Its not about YOU and YOUR squadie having fun. Its about you, your squadie AND your ENEMY having fun.

If you respect the person on the other side you will eventually learn to take one and give one.

Also you will learn to not give what you cant stand taking.

Example:

You cant stand getting vulched because its furstrating and hugely unfun. Dont do it your self.

IF you dont like reading whinage... dont whine your self.

Its simple. Treat other people like you want them to treat you. But always remember a fight cant be 100% ballanced and 100% fair at all time. Dont stress your self out over it.

Tex

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I know very well what a hoard is... but Im not talkin about that.. Im talkin about what you, me and everyone else will hear..

Everyone that doesnt fly alone will get called a hoarder eventually and everyone that doesnt constantly fly lower then his opponenets (all of them) will get called a altmonkey.

I know its wrong... but it will happen..

So its kind of irrelevant what the "true deffiniton" of a hoard is..

What is important is to know what to expect to be called and learning how to deal with it.

Tex
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Offline MOIL

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« Reply #34 on: October 24, 2004, 02:38:54 PM »
In case some arn't aware, there is positive talk about IL2 going MMP!
If anyone has the means to pull it off it's Mr. Maddox & CO.

Just a thought

Carry On
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Offline 4510

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« Reply #35 on: October 24, 2004, 02:47:47 PM »
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In case some arn't aware, there is positive talk about IL2 going MMP!
If anyone has the means to pull it off it's Mr. Maddox & CO.

Just a thought

Carry On


They have an online content now... tho I've never been there.  I have been playing around with IL2FB offline.  It is very interesting and pretty complex. (if you want to manage everything)

Still don't have a feel for all the nuances of the offline.  Pretty immersive with rain and the graphics are outstanding.  Also a wide variety of obscure Eastern Front aircraft.  Of course my gunnery sucks as badly in there as it did in AH. :lol
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Offline Nomak

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« Reply #36 on: October 24, 2004, 02:56:21 PM »
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In case some arn't aware, there is positive talk about IL2 going MMP!
If anyone has the means to pull it off it's Mr. Maddox & CO.

Just a thought

Carry On


Pacific fighters (IL2's newest offering) offers 128player online dogfight.

Just FYI
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Offline dracon

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« Reply #37 on: October 24, 2004, 03:05:05 PM »
OOPs!!

Sorry sax didn't mean to say you were wrong or a poor sport.  Not awake when writing that, Sorry Sir.

I don't agree with stang.  The horde is not real....period!!  Too much tado about nada.  Go fly and have your fun.
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Offline streetstang

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« Reply #38 on: October 24, 2004, 03:59:30 PM »
Same watermelon different thread.
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Offline 4510

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« Reply #39 on: October 24, 2004, 04:17:05 PM »
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Pacific fighters (IL2's newest offering) offers 128player online dogfight.

Just FYI


What is the underlying game model in Pacific Fighters?  
Fee for All?
Country Based?
Mission Oriented?
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« Reply #40 on: October 24, 2004, 04:40:01 PM »
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The problem with hordes is that they never collide.



Oooooooh, but when they DO!!!  :D


Sad to say it doesnt happen very often though :(
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In the end you should be thankful for those players like us who switch to try and help keep things even because our willingness to do so, helps a more selfish, I want it my way player, get to fly his latewar uber ride.

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« Reply #41 on: October 24, 2004, 04:52:22 PM »
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A fight 2v1 will be a gank and the two will be hoarders. Same goes for 2v3 4v5 ect ect.


I disagree. Case in point....the other night at furball/gv island in the middle of Ozkansas I was involved in a 5 on 3 (5 enemies). When the fight was over I had killed 4, lost both teammates and the 5th enemy was running from my Hurri like he stole a TV  :rofl

That was an awesome fight, no hording that time :D
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Corkyjr on country jumping:
In the end you should be thankful for those players like us who switch to try and help keep things even because our willingness to do so, helps a more selfish, I want it my way player, get to fly his latewar uber ride.

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« Reply #42 on: October 24, 2004, 04:54:27 PM »
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The problem with hordes is that they never collide.


Yup, they never do.  Tells you something about the nature of those who fly in it.
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Offline dracon

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« Reply #43 on: October 24, 2004, 05:06:20 PM »
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What is the underlying game model in Pacific Fighters?  
Fee for All?
Country Based?
Mission Oriented?


It is all 3!  It depends on the "Host".  Everything is available.  Some servers run strict historical others total fantasy.

What UBI soft and Maddox Games did was to produce:
1.  IL2 Strumovick, a German vs Russian war.  

2.  The next addition was Forgotten Battles.  This added the European War.

3.  Next came the Aces Expansion Pack (AEP) which added a year or so to the war bringing with it the planeset of the time.

4. Pacific Fighters obviously adds the War in the Pacific, again obviously BIG on the CV ops.   If you pre-ordered, you already have it!  I love it!

It does take a Good "Box" to take full advantage but even my 1.7 Ghz/ATI-9600XT ain't too bad!

It's going to be interesting to see what the 128 person servers brings.  Fact: To date, online play can be a bit frustrating at times due to Lag and connect issues.  More and more squads are sponsoring 24/7 servers that offer excellent performance.  It's definitely join what you want and play what you want.

Plenty to look at and read here: http://www.pacific-fighters.com/en/home.php

Regards,
Dracon
« Last Edit: October 24, 2004, 05:08:58 PM by dracon »
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« Reply #44 on: October 24, 2004, 05:16:32 PM »
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Ya know poopster, I love ya man.  Always will.  I asked you to fly with the 339th to see what we did....you didn't.  Now there's only 4 left.  The rest quit or don't fly.

Dracon

You think maybe they got tired of the boring flying in the horde? Maybe they wanted to actually fight people instead of  buildings?
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