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Offline Gunthr

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Why are there NO flu vaccine manufacturers in the USA??
« on: October 25, 2004, 09:34:01 AM »
La Grippe of THE TRIAL LAWYERS


So why is it that 100 percent of our flu vaccines are now made by two companies in Europe? The answer is simple. Trial lawyers drove the American manufacturers out of the business.


"All this is the result of a legal concept called "liability without fault" that emerged from the hothouse atmosphere of the law schools in the 1960s and became the law of the land. Under the old "negligence" regime, you had to prove a product manufacturer had done something wrong in order to hold it liable for damages. Under liability without fault, on the other hand, the manufacturer can be held responsible for harm from its products, whether blameworthy or not. Add to that the jackpot awards that come from pain-and-suffering and punitive damages, and you have a legal climate that no manufacturer wants to risk."


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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2004, 09:40:10 AM »
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La Grippe of THE TRIAL LAWYERS


So why is it that 100 percent of our flu vaccines are now made by two companies in Europe? The answer is simple. Trial lawyers drove the American manufacturers out of the business.


"All this is the result of a legal concept called "liability without fault" that emerged from the hothouse atmosphere of the law schools in the 1960s and became the law of the land. Under the old "negligence" regime, you had to prove a product manufacturer had done something wrong in order to hold it liable for damages. Under liability without fault, on the other hand, the manufacturer can be held responsible for harm from its products, whether blameworthy or not. Add to that the jackpot awards that come from pain-and-suffering and punitive damages, and you have a legal climate that no manufacturer wants to risk."


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According to the Wall Street Journal, though Hillary care as a whole
 crashed and burned in 1994, the former first lady was able to change
the laws governing the manufacture of vaccines.

 And the results have been disastrous.
 During last fall's flu vaccine shortage, the Journal noted:
 "The reason for today's shortage - as well as seven previous preventive vaccine shortages since 2000 - is that there are just five vaccine makers. This lack of suppliers is partly thanks to Hillary Clinton, who as first lady turned government into the majority buyer of vaccines and pushed prices so low as to make business unsustainable."

 In July 2003 the Journal noted that the problem goes back to 1993, when Mrs. Clinton's "Vaccines for Children Program" was first implemented.

 The vaccine crusade was being pushed at the time by Mrs. Clinton's Children's Defense Fund mentor Marian Wright Edelman - even though U.S. child vaccination rates in the early 1990s were considered relatively high by medical experts.

 But that didn't stop Sen. Clinton and her "reformers." She pressured Congress to back her plan in a bid to make vaccines more available to poor, uninsured and underinsured children. In the process she turned the government into the major purchaser and distributor of vaccines.

 Not only did Sen. Clinton's reform fail to result in any noticeable
 increase in childhood vaccination rates, it managed to drive down
 financial incentives for private companies to develop and produce
 vaccines.

 A year after the Journal's report on Sen. Clinton's crusade, the number of manufactures producing flu vaccine has declined to just two.

From another article:
 Now, Kerry is even blaming the flu vaccine shortage on President Bush. However, the flu vaccine shortage can be traced directly back to Democrat Hillary Clinton. During President Clinton's tenure, Mrs. Clinton tried to force US drug manufacturers to produce vaccines for children and give them away, virtually, free. Not only did the drug manufacturers balk at this but, they saw the real threat of lawsuits.With no protections offered to them, they could be sued should anyone have an adverse reaction to the vaccine. So, they stopped manufacturing it and outsourced. Another Dem lie bites the dust. However, John Kerry is still using this falsehood and others in his campaign against President Bush. As long as he can continue to blind his faithful with lies, Kerry will continue to use them.

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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2004, 10:52:17 AM »
As much as I like to ***** about lawyers, the vaccine is being produced in the US.  By a French company, but still in the US.  

http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/10/23/vaccine.factory.ap/index.html

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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2004, 11:23:49 AM »
Handwriting on the wall?
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« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2004, 12:41:59 PM »
no way

it's Bush's fault ... got to be ... everything else wrong with the world is

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« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2004, 12:55:54 PM »
Well, we've got plenty of viagra.

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« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2004, 01:05:03 PM »
>>Well, we've got plenty of viagra.<<

Thats funny, but interesting too. The complications from viagra can be severe, and yet I don't see it comming off the market because of law suits. Could it be America thinks with its other head? :D

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« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2004, 01:57:39 PM »
i heard a rumor that viagra may cause unwanted pregnancies..

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« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2004, 05:30:46 PM »
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i heard a rumor that viagra may cause unwanted pregnancies..


Oh my god! :eek: That's awfull. :rofl

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« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2004, 05:49:43 PM »
Don't forget who was the lawyer who was the final push to push the Vaccines out of the US.  He's actually very famous recently...
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« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2004, 06:30:20 PM »
ok lets see.

the vaccine gets you sick and kills you.  who is to blame?  the company who made it or the person who took it?  hum such hard questions.:rolleyes:
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« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2004, 06:48:33 PM »
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ok lets see.

the vaccine gets you sick and kills you.  who is to blame?  the company who made it or the person who took it?  hum such hard questions.:rolleyes:


tsk tsk

So we allow our vaccine makers to be sued out of existance causeing shortages.....great plan skull....great plan.

Q:  What happens when a polio vaccine maker gets sued for 20 million because 1 in 10,000,000 kids has complications.

A:  They 1.  move off shore or 2.  They quit making polio vaccines.  

either way Americans will suffer.  


BUT the bigger picture is this.  Liberals want socialized medicine so bad that this and massive mal practice lawsuits are part of the game plan.  If you sue the medical industry out of existence the Govt. is then forced to take it over.

What happens when this same practices are applied to the govt.  Can our govt afford these massive pay outs AND the cost of Govt provided health care.....the answer is definatly no.  So now you change the law to forbid people for sueing the govt. for free health care.   <----why can't we protect these companies now?

None of us here are saying that these medical professionals should have complete immunity to liability claims.....just that there is SOME protection for them.  AND this is hardly the republicans fault.

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« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2004, 07:53:03 PM »
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... The complications from viagra can be severe...


I got a Viagra pill stuck in my throat.  Didn't go all the way down.  Ended up with a stiff neck.
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« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2004, 08:00:53 PM »
>> got a Viagra pill stuck in my throat. Didn't go all the way down. Ended up with a stiff neck.<<

:) old.. old..old.. (did I say OLD?):D

the joke not me :)

On another point someone was talking about socialized medicine and how bad it would be. Anyone participates in an HMO? I'd go to a vet before I participated in an HMO. Them suckers will kill you.

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« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2004, 08:22:17 PM »
Edwards was the correct answer.  He was the lawyer for a guy who sued for 5 million dollars after he caught the flu after getting the vaccine.  He wasn't critically sick or even sick past the normal flu stuff either.  He just got the flu.


Here's for slip and fall lawyers :aok !
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