Nice Job Bushie!

[Gixer]

Originally posted by Elfie
how would you classify that kind of weapon?

A large bomb, certinly not a WMD.

WMD is a single weapon nuclear,chemcial,biological that can cause a massive amount damage/casualties.

I think the following of Bush so blindly by some people on this board seems to disconnect their own brian and ability to think for themselves.



...-Gixer

[Gixer]

Originally posted by Elfie
I don't know why the generals were denied more divisions in Iraq.

I thought the Generals (or one in paticular was quoted as saying) that they needed about 250,000 troops. But Rummy and co thought they would be welcomed as hero's and liberators.  LOL



...-Gixer

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Gixer
A large bomb, certinly not a WMD.

WMD is a single weapon nuclear,chemcial,biological that can cause a massive amount damage/casualties.

I think the following of Bush so blindly by some people on this board seems to disconnect their own brian and ability to think for themselves.



...-Gixer

Im trying not to get too far into this one. its such a silly arguement and all that but.

Didnt they at one point consider the planes that hit the twin towers a form of WMD because of the massive amount of destruction they caused?

I think some folks may be getting their alphabet wrong and may be thinking of NBC's.

Doesnt have to be an NBC to be a weapon of mass destruction.

Just has to be a weapon that causes massive destruction.
Now I'd say 360 tons would cause a considerable amount of destruction. Certainly massive.

Now am I saying that because he had these explosives he had WMDs? No these are not the type of WMDs we were looking for.

Certainly not the ones that everyone including France, Germany, Russia, Saidi arabia and a host of other countries Intel said they had. Hell even the Iraqis thought they had them. Everyone agreed he had them. The question was to go in or not.
and the REAL question people should be asking is what happened to the ones everyone knew he already had
but thats a different arguement.

  The point I am trying to make is 360 tons of explosive can certainly be made into a WMD. Depending on how its used.
Now is it likely to be used that way? no.
But it could be.

and it isnt always what it is that makes it a WMD. Its how its used

[Elfie]

Good answer Drediok, Sometimes I have difficulty putting things into words I think they did at one point consider the planes that hit the WTC as WMD for the very reason you stated.

and the REAL question people should be asking is what happened to the ones everyone knew he already had

I've brought that up several times on this board including in this thread. No one seems to want to acknowledge those. I guess because we havent found them yet that they never really existed.  Good chance they got buried in the sand the same way they buried those MiG's.

Certainly not the ones that everyone including France, Germany, Russia, Saidi arabia and a host of other countries Intel said they had. Hell even the Iraqis thought they had them. Everyone agreed he had them.

Funny how GWB is the only one responsible for faulty intel now. I guess its just easier to point the finger at the US for faulty intel even though it wasnt just the US intel that was faulty.

[Elfie]

Originally posted by Gixer
I thought the Generals (or one in paticular was quoted as saying) that they needed about 250,000 troops. But Rummy and co thought they would be welcomed as hero's and liberators.  LOL



...-Gixer

I can recall one General officer saying they had wanted more troops. If you recall when we first liberated Baghdad we WERE welcomed as liberators. There were celebrations in the streets. The general populace appeared to be overjoyed that Sadaam had been ousted.


Always amazes me how quickly people forget.....

[Gixer]

Originally posted by Elfie
I can recall one General officer saying they had wanted more troops. If you recall when we first liberated Baghdad we WERE welcomed as liberators. There were celebrations in the streets. The general populace appeared to be overjoyed that Sadaam had been ousted.


Always amazes me how quickly people forget.....

Celebrations in the street? Ever wondered why during the camera shots in the square of the soilders pulling down the statue of sadam there was only about 100 people or so in the camera and TV shots, out of a city of how many million?

General populace stayed well away and at home. Hardly the scene of a city/population being liberatated that Bush and co had hoped for. Though that's what they'd like you to believe.





...-Gixer

[parker00]

Good chance they got buried in the sand the same way they buried those MiG's.

I find it hard to believe that we found people who were willing to give up the location of some old mig's, but no one wants to tell us were the WMD are.  After being offered large amounts of money and probably a new home almost anywhere they wanted, still no one is willing to speak up. I mean come on, someone would know something a soldier, a scientist or even some farmer or villager that saw them move or bury it. Someone by now would of taken the money and said where they were hidden.

[AVRO1]

"The problem with the French is that they don't have a word for entrepreneur."

—George W. Bush


Is this a joke?

[parker00]

Is this a joke?

I think he said that in a speech but I could be wrong.


68Parker

[Toad]

Report: Explosives already gone when U.S. troops arrived

CNN:

Baghdad fell on April 9, 2003. According to NBC, troops from the 101st Airborne arrived the next day to find that the material was already gone.

Is this what all this hullabaloo is about?

[lazs2]

so kerrie blasting Bush onm the trail about "losing" the end of the world weapons is just him not knowing what really happened or... do you think he is lying about it?

lazs

[Martlet]

Originally posted by Nash
Then why are you here?

To make drive-by anti-Kerry jabs? Which have zero connection to this thread?

Knowing nothing about what the thread is about.

Seriously, why are you even posting?

Pot, meet kettle.....

[Elfie]

Originally posted by Gixer
Celebrations in the street? Ever wondered why during the camera shots in the square of the soilders pulling down the statue of sadam there was only about 100 people or so in the camera and TV shots, out of a city of how many million?

General populace stayed well away and at home. Hardly the scene of a city/population being liberatated that Bush and co had hoped for. Though that's what they'd like you to believe.





...-Gixer

I remember seeing lots of people on the perimeter when that statue of Saddam was pulled down, some of them came running up when the statue was pulled down, but there were many people watching (and cheering when it hit the ground). Even the picture you posted shows a significant number of people in the background, and thats not even a wide angle shot. I watched it happen live (iirc), I watched those people celebrate. That was just one small part of Baghdad. There were hundreds of people at that event at the very least.

A large bomb, certinly not a WMD.

WMD is a single weapon nuclear,chemcial,biological that can cause a massive amount damage/casualties.

I think the following of Bush so blindly by some people on this board seems to disconnect their own brian and ability to think for themselves.


I was using my own *brian*.

[Eagler]

another example of liberal spew before all the facts were in ...

problem is the Republicans have too much class to rub their noses in it...

[TheDudeDVant]

Originally posted by Eagler
another example of liberal spew before all the facts were in ...

problem is the Republicans have too much class to rub their noses in it...

What example is that??