its some of the best water i have seen in a game, up close its stunning, i ran the t34 right into it and looked at it from 2 feet away, really nice. as many have mentioned the frame rate hit me too. its strange how it works tho, at the close to medium distances its fine, something is going on with the horizon water animation tho, it goes all grainy like the normal terrain does if mip mapping is off.also when im looking at the granulated horizon this is where i get the 12 to 21 fps. All n all its a giant leap from the old water, but there are still some tweaks to be done before i can play with it on. And as capt vergil hilts pointed out, the water is dang dark when its on the old default way. I lose the enemy in it when diving on em.