Get Back To The Previous Way Of Bomb Calibration

[thndregg]

Now it's getting on the verge of being ridiculous. Holding down the "Y" key only to calibrate your sight? What skill is there in that?!? Some of us that aqiured the skill of actually calibrating the sight now feel gipped. It takes skill to be a fighter pilot...DON'T GET CHEESY WITH THAT ALSO!!
                     THANKS..from an almost resigned member of the newly formed Birds of Prey Bomber Wing.


 P.S.  Some bombers HISTORICALLY did not dive bomb there targets in WW2......         read your history books

[JB73]

Originally posted by thndregg
P.S.  Some bombers HISTORICALLY did not dive bomb there targets in WW2......         read your history books

this statement almost invalidates you earlier comments.

the "old" way was no calibration in any way.

when the "new" way came along many gave up bombing, until they learned to dive bomb in heavies.

now the "new new" version is a comprimise between the 2, hoping in part i believe to stop the dive bombing heavies, giving them a chance to calibrate with some accuracy.

personally i dont bomb with level bombers at all (maybe less than 1% of all my sorties). i found i can not calibrate correctly, even though reading all posts, and help files posted. i dont do something right, and dont know what it is, but it basically negated bombing overall. with this "new new" way, i have a fighting chance, and welcome it.


but please dont think going back to the complicated calibration will help stop the dive bombing of heavies, it is what started it in the first place. there was NO reason to dive heavies before the complicated calibration started.

[Flayed1]

Well if this way of bombing stops dive bombing heavys its because it takes just as little skill as the dive bombing did if not less. Now all you have to do is get to the altitude you want, let your speed settle, hold y for a few seconds and drop when cross hairs reach target.

[ra]

The previous way of calibrating was fine.  If you couldn't handle it you shouldn't have been buffing.

[LtPillur]

Originally posted by Flayed1
Well if this way of bombing stops dive bombing heavys its because it takes just as little skill as the dive bombing did if not less. Now all you have to do is get to the altitude you want, let your speed settle, hold y for a few seconds and drop when cross hairs reach target.

Which takes the challenge out of it. Before one had to learn to calibrate. Now that it has been made "cheesie" it takes no skill. Up , push, drop. Bring back the old bomb site.
Peace
Pillur

[Waffle]

hopefully now we will see more folks climbing to alt using bombers now they way they were meant to be. -

more bombers going up higher - more intercerpt - more intercept - more escort....


sounds like more fun to me....

[JB73]

Originally posted by Waffle BAS
hopefully now we will see more folks climbing to alt using bombers now they way they were meant to be. -

more bombers going up higher - more intercerpt - more intercept - more escort....


sounds like more fun to me....

exactly.

[Flayed1]

This is my post from feedback and requests.

  H.T. Bring back the calibration!!!!

Hitech I have never complaned openly on the boards about anything you have done to AH1 or 2, (only anoying bugs) and very few of these. I think your doing a great job and working very hard on making this an enjoyable sim/game for as many people as possible (and here it comes) But why did you have to change the bombsight calibration to this cheasy version of it's former self?
I have worked very hard to become a good bomber pilot and have gotten to the point where I could calibrate that sight and almost always hit my target .
I have been lucky enuf to be assighned the duty of bomber wing leader for the Birds of Prey and it gives me great satisfaction when some of my squadmates request that a target be blown to bits and I fight my way over to the target (usually in my 26's of doom ) and hit my target dead on and get that wonderfull praise for a job well done. I have even begun to hit those pesky moving CV's lvl bombing. First I was at 1 to 2k and sank 3 of em and my latest one I was at 10k, didn't sink it but took off most of the guns.

As it stands now I almost feel as though I'm out of a job. Befor this change us buff pilots were a rare breed we actually took the time to do a certain task well. Now anyone can bomb just as well if not better than I could.
You have given us the exceptional B24 and I love this plane but we now have a bomber with a heavy ord loadout good armament and a bombsight that no longer takes any skill to use and I feel cheap when I bomb now. And just so no one says then use a smaller bomber, I would feel the same way.

I guess to sum it up. People have to have some degree of skill to get kills in a fighter even I have some skill in them although not near what other people have. Why then take the skill out of bombing. And yes I realise that some people have trouble calibrating but then again some people can't seem to hit much with a fighter but I don't see auto locking target sights being instagated.

Well anyway you probably get the drift and I'm sorry to be so long winded but I do feel rather strongly about this and I know there are others if not many that feel the same way.

HiTech and please give this some serious thought.

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PS My brother Thndregg apologizes if he was a bit loud in his posting, thats just his personality.

[LePaul]

This seems like a re-run of the "dont ruin my fun" anti-buff rants.

[Waffle]

I understand the skill that went into having to calibrate - and I was the victim of of poor calibration many times when I thought it was perfect....miss a target by 100yrds or less:) Which sucks after flying for 1/2 hour or more to get to alt / target..lol

Anyway,  the new calibration is a pleasant middle groud between the old point and drop system and the previous system. Honestly, in the several runs that I've done with the new system, I've missed calibrated a bit and missed targets.

In the sense of gameplay, when there are bombers coming in under fire - it's going to mak calibrating and delivering to a target harder. If you loose an engine to  a enemy fighter - your speed and torque is all messed up - you have to even out your engines before recalibrating - all while taking fire.

Even at high alts with a fast  bomber - there will still be some errors.

now, as a fellow Bop -

I think that this will be good for bomberwings,  - you'll have more folks that will fly for the simple fact of "I have a chance to hit something" Heck I'll even fly some

[Roscoroo]

I like this way better .. 95% of my drops are on target ... I'm not seeing as many kamikazi /dive buffs any more .its brought back the fun in high alt buff runs .

Now i was good at the old Cal method but it left ya open too much for attacks on the turn around and recal time .

[streetstang]

Originally posted by Waffle BAS
hopefully now we will see more folks climbing to alt using bombers now they way they were meant to be. -

more bombers going up higher - more intercerpt - more intercept - more escort....


sounds like more fun to me....

 [SIZE=12]EXACTLY Waffle!!![/SIZE] [/COLOR]

THIS is one of the most important things people over look in this game.

I spent almost a year if buffs waaay back when... getting good in them, going up to 37k in B17s and lvling cities and such. It was fun but not many could or wanted to bomb from High alt.

Now its actually fun for some who enjoy flying buffs and also enjoy being able to hit things from high alt.

Its fun to run missions like we did tonight. 30+ B24s with 14 P47s as escort hitting MULTIPLE targets.

Tonight, our mission took out the entire city for the Rooks, then went on to kill EVERY single one of their barracks on the Night/Rook front. And did so from 25k in B24s dropping 1 bomb on each of the barracks.

We actually accomplished something tonight. Other than just rolling dozens of bombers to some HQ we took off and got something done. And had fun doing it. And many where able to do things they previously couldnt.

I'm sorry for those who dont like the new way of lvl bombing. But this is a much better way for someone new to the game or even someone who always wanted to bomb from High alt and be successful, do so. Its good for the game and its a great move by Hitech. Most of all, its more fun for all.

I wont forget to mention all the fun the escorts had along the way. Killing the bad guys and protecting the mission. It was alot of fun.

[Citabria]

I have flown nothing but the b24 and some gv sorties this tour.

the bombsite is fun and not so cumbersome but limits insane targeting and retains the fun of good accuracy form higher alt while still having dispersion.

all good things and lots of fun.


bombing is fun again.

before it was like doing taxes.

[Overlag]

Originally posted by Waffle BAS
hopefully now we will see more folks climbing to alt using bombers now they way they were meant to be. -

more bombers going up higher - more intercerpt - more intercept - more escort....


sounds like more fun to me....

[SIZE=10]10/10 CORRECT[/SIZE]

[Kweassa]

I don't mind much. Since the essential routine of a proper approach, and speed/alt stabilization is still required, the 'dumbing down' is just simplifying the marking process with a single key stroke.

 However, this is not in anyway going to fix the low-alt bomber problem. People don't do low-alt bombing stunts because its too hard to aim things. People do it because under current conditions of the MA, (wildly tactical but non-strategical) there isn't any other target to really use bombers on.