Thinking about voting Conservative...

[Suave]

Originally posted by Bodhi
Dowding, does this mean we Americans can be obnoxious tulips and voice obnoxious opinions about who you people choose for your PM, or should we just sit quietly and let you choose, since, after all, it is up to you.

Like some euros opinion is going to stop us from being obnoxious bellybutton Americans.
We're unilateral man! And we don't speak feminine foriegn languages or put creamed eggs on our freedom fries!!

[Blue2]

Surely such a pillock doesn't realy exist?

Personaly I think The Liberal Democrats should get a go as both the other main parties have managed to balls up everything over the last 30 years or so.

Won't happen though. Sadly.

[Vudak]

What's the difference between the House of Commons and the House of Lords?

I was once dragged to a chick flick that said a position in the House of Lords is a hereditary title.  For some odd reason, despite being American, I feel a bit uncomfortable going about my day believing that based on the testimony of hollywood.

[lazs2]

dowding... shouldn't you just do a poll to see how the rest of the world wants yu to vote.... I mean.... we live on the planet too!

beetle... whoever that guy who flew meteors was.... bet he was a good un.

lazs

[Chortle]

Lazs, Norman Tebbit, satirised as Normo Tebbs and a well known hard bastard. He was Thatchers hit man, you knew when he visited by the body count.

He also survived the IRA Brighton Bomb when they tried to off Thatcher. His wife unfortunately was paralysed from the waist down, they're still together.

He was Thatchers Pitt Bull on the leash. I F*cking hated him.

[beet1e]

Originally posted by Vudak
What's the difference between the House of Commons and the House of Lords?

I was once dragged to a chick flick that said a position in the House of Lords is a hereditary title.  For some odd reason, despite being American, I feel a bit uncomfortable going about my day believing that based on the testimony of hollywood.

The House of Commons is the lower house (like US Congress?), the House of Lords the upper house. The UK is divided into about 670 constituencies. Political parties can field a candidate in any or all of those constituencies. When we go to vote, we don't vote for Howard or for Blair as such - unless we happen to live in the constituency represented by those MPs. We vote for the candidate representing the party we want to elect. Whoever gets the most votes in his/her wins the vote for that constituency, and a seat in the House of Commons. Whichever party wins the most seats becomes the elected government.

Tebbo was cool - the original Essex Boy from Ponders End! I read his autobiography. He hated those snivelling welfare bums, and people who refused to help themselves by learning a new trade or profession as their old skills became redundant with the passage of time. More power to his elbow. He was also a pilot for BOAC, flying 707s until 1970.

[Blue2]

F**king hated him and the Thatcher Govt too.

Wrecked our country and turned us into some sh*te parody of a certain bigger country!

Think it was the sod you jack I'm ok attitude that they preached messed up this country for good.

[AKIron]

Dowding, if you guys would behave we might consider letting ya become a state in the USofA.

[Blue2]

We already were lol

[lazs2]

they can be a state so long as they don't get the right to vote.

chortle... the guy sounds pretty cool to me.  Bet he and I would get along fine.   What was wrong with Thatcher?  didn't she fix your socialist economy a little?

lazs

[Chortle]

Depends on your view, Tebbit and Thatcher are idolised by the right and villified by the left.

Telling 20,000 3rd generation miners they were no longer needed as coal could be bought much cheaper from 12 year olds in the Malaysia needed a firm hand, but they seemed to relish it. Tebbit was a thug in a suit as far as I'm concerned, amusing to have a chat with no doubt but not someone you want running your life.

[lazs2]

How did he feel about gun control?  

and... I don't want anyone running my life...  

lazs

[Suave]

I haven't seen a Thatcher/Tebbit/Ventura quote that I didn't agree with.

[beet1e]

Chortle/Blue2

I know things were tough for those stuck in 19th century industries with 18th century working practices as late as 1980. Labour had allowed industries to fester, while they poured money into them - money raised by having an 83%  top rate of income tax, with a 15% investment income surcharge, making a total tax take of 98%. There was a GREAT deal of catching up to be done to drag industry into the computer age. I'm sure the cloth cap culture was cosy, but car workers spending their winter days standing around braziers with strike placards? It couldn't go on...

I had a good ding-dong about all this with Dowding about two years ago. I'm glad he's finally seeing the light, as can be seen from the title of this thread.

Beet1e & Dowding ding-dong thread from 2002

Ignore Lazs's walls-o-text in the above thread. I think he was suffering from PMT/PMS at the time. Either that, or one of his cats pissed in his supply of gunpowder.

[john9001]

cat piss actualy increases the explosive power of gunpowder by 30%

thats what it means when you buy a " +P " round.