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Offline Flyboy

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« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2004, 01:02:01 PM »
500kph is around 300mph right?

thats way off from what we have in AH.

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« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2004, 01:05:46 PM »
Pretty Sure it will be addressed.  Pyro is going to be working on the  the FW-190 soon.

HTC does a fantastic job of recreating these planes, IMO.

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« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2004, 01:15:05 PM »
A thumbs up and a YES to tha Crumpp.

IMHO they are the best around in their category, leaving most others in the dust
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2004, 02:51:07 PM »
Crummp,

Do you have the rest of that document?

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« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2004, 03:29:17 PM »
Yes I do bro.

I will put a copy in your folder to be sent with the Drag data and FW-190 drag polars if you would like.  

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« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2004, 03:33:43 PM »
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Pretty Sure it will be addressed. Pyro is going to working on the the FW-190 soon.


 I don't think its that optimistic.

 The impression I got was that Pyro might look into the 190s, as he wanted to redo them sooner or later.  

 I think you're gonna have to send them a really really detailed report of how the flaps can be used at that speed for the 190s(or possibly even 109s..?), and have some conversation about it.

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« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2004, 03:33:50 PM »
You da man, dog!!

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« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2004, 03:55:51 PM »
Crump,

Please contact me at the address listed in my profile.

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« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2004, 07:25:26 PM »
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Pretty Sure it will be addressed. Pyro is going to be working on the the FW-190 soon.


So we may at some time in the future get manuevering flaps on the FW190 like the Pony and Jug have?

Man, that would take the 190 into the realm of a really competative ride :aok

I hope they do this fairly soon.  If the 190 had flaps at 300 mph it would definately turn better, and should be better at vertical moves.  Of course all this would be at the expense of acceleration and speed.  Hell, they might even want to perk the Dora ;)

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« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2004, 07:39:34 PM »
Is dat raw data **** for real? If yes, kudos to crump for spending countless hrs researching luft planes functions:aok

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« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2004, 07:41:20 PM »
now this is how news should look like on patch 3 or 2.02 patch 1

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1. now changed flap settings for 190s

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« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2004, 05:04:28 PM »
do not expect a miracle from a 10* flap position...
it will turn a tad batter... thats it

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« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2004, 05:44:30 PM »
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do not expect a miracle from a 10* flap position...
it will turn a tad batter... thats it


Yes and no,  that 10 degreees available at 300 mph, nearly diouble the current min flap speed, will be a significant change.  Also I assume all othervflap positions migh recevie higher limits too..

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« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2004, 06:12:13 PM »
Anyone who wants a better turning 190 does not understand the basic concept of that plane.

Dogfights were never meant to be merry-go-arounds like we have in AH. Be fast, catch your enemy suprised, use your manouverability and speed to get outta trouble if you have to.

I've never read any account of a 190 pilot that used flaps in combat. It would have been stupid. Needlessly slows you down in an enviroment where death lures in every cloud.

Developement of fighter planes was aimed at speed, versatility and firepower. Turning - if at all - is a defensive manouver. Oh, and don't mix turning with manouverabilty. In dogfight staying outta plane is a very important thing - the 190 does this perfectly with its unsurpassed roll-rate.

I know RL and game world don't mix very well. But aren't doing sims to recreate reality as good as possible? Maybe something within the game-mechanics itself favours turners in AH... icons?... no fear of virtual death? who knows...

What I want is a historical cockpit for the 190 and its uncut roll-rate. Oh, and a few more loadouts would be nice!
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« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2004, 06:39:44 PM »
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I've never read any account of a 190 pilot that used flaps in combat.  


Every FW-190 pilot I have interviewed has said the same thing.  They used flaps in the turn.






They made a significant different in the ability of the FW-190 to get into position to gain a gun solution.
And they were handy if you got caught low and slow.

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But aren't doing sims to recreate reality as good as possible?


Yep.  HTC does a great job and I am sure will model the FW-190 as accurately as possible with the information they have at hand.

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