Author Topic: AH FPS Benchmarks? (Read 768 times)

Midnight · « **on:** November 11, 2004, 11:47:26 AM »

Is there an FPS benchmark for AH based on system specs?

I just recieved a new Dell XPS Gen 3
3.4Ghz
1G DDR2 533MHz RAM
256MB ATI X800T PCIe Video

I've gone through Skuzzy's Tips and have disabled all the stuff in his list plus many other services - I still have 39 running, so there must be more I can kill (according to Skuzzy)

Anyway, With everything cranked to max detail, max visual range, 1024 textures, 1024x768 resolution, I have

52 FPS in tower
31 FPS in a GV
24 FPS on the runway in a P-51D
85 FPS on the bridge of a CV

When I get this PC home tonight, I'll be trying to run it at 1600x1200 so I am thinking my FPS will go down even further.

I would like to think that this PC has the HP to play AH with everthing maxed out.

thebest1 · « **Reply #1 on:** November 11, 2004, 12:05:09 PM »

how much was it?

Schutt · « **Reply #2 on:** November 11, 2004, 12:08:18 PM »

39 processes is strange. What cpu usage in idle?

Also i would think you should get way better framerates.

Midnight · « **Reply #3 on:** November 11, 2004, 12:53:50 PM »

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Originally posted by thebest1
how much was it?

I got everything for about $1800 when Dell had a 30% off sale one friday last month.
The PC has including the specs from my 1st post:
1 16x DVD
1 DVD-R/+R
160Gb HD
SB Audigy
5.1 Surround speaker system
17" monitor (call it an extra because I already have a 21" Trinitron)
Color photo-printer with flat-bed scanner

plus all the other goodies you would expect this type of PC to have
2.0USB ports front and back
firewire ports front and back
audio ports front and back
etc.

The Chassis is huge - 20"H x 18"D x 8.5"W
2 fans and duct work for the CPU cooler
2 fans on the Power supply (which is actually a 2" high platform that the rest of the PC chassis sits on top of)

Midnight · « **Reply #4 on:** November 11, 2004, 12:56:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Schutt
39 processes is strange. What cpu usage in idle?

Also i would think you should get way better framerates.

CPU at idle is 1%.. I'm messing with disabling other processes to see if I can improve the performance.

I bumped the resolution up to 1280x1024 (best the monitor here can handle) and the FPS remained at 53 in the tower, so I guess the video card wasn't straining at the 1024x768 setting.

214thCavalier · « **Reply #5 on:** November 11, 2004, 01:11:05 PM »

I use an AMD A64 3500 and 1 gig mem with X800XT.

Sure i can run it at 1600 res and 1024 textures at decent frame rates.

But i choose not to, because once you actually get involved in fighting especially when low then you will find choppy play and low frame rates. Dependant on how many cons you are surrounded by.

I have my vid settings at about 90%, res is 1280 with 512 textures and i load into vid mem as sytem mem seems screwed to me. Last patch or 2 using system mem for caching i am getting failed disk writes etc.
Never get them with any other program.
Reason for 512 textures is if attacking buffs with 1024 tex i always get a freeze at about 1.5 to 1.0k out, usually resulting in a blown pass or me taking damage.

Using these settings i can fight in the weeds with multiple cons and still be smooth as silk, to me its more about playability than maxing the visuals.

Your best way to check the fps is always use the same plane at the same field, runway etc.
Try it but i can tell you now at some fields you will get double the fps than others, even if both fields are of the same class ie large.

Midnight · « **Reply #6 on:** November 11, 2004, 01:21:31 PM »

Thanks Cavalier

I might have to drop some settings too. I just thought that this 'high end' system should be able to fire out FPS in AH with no problems with max details selected.

I've gotten the running processes down to 23, but I can't see where any others can be disabled without making the PC unstable or unplayable online (according to service descriptions for stuff like DNS service, TCP service, etc.)

With the 23 services running, I'm at

57 FPS in the tower
48 FPS OTR in a P-51D which jumps to 75 FPS once I clear 500'

Pretty good.. I'll have to see what I get in combat with fires and smoke going, etc.

38ruk · « **Reply #7 on:** November 11, 2004, 02:24:27 PM »

I have a amd64 3400+ and a 9800 pro , i can max out everything except the ground range, with 6x aa and it sits at the monitior cap of 75hz@1280x768. I would really like to see a set up that can run everything maxed, and not see any studder or slow down. Nice rig midnight , u too cav. 38

Btw i have 9 proccess's running at startup , xp home , keep widdilin away midnight

IronDog · « **Reply #8 on:** November 11, 2004, 05:14:24 PM »

Merc,oops Midnight
There is a website called Blackviper.This guy is very good at getting the msc.services down.I run with 14,and could do even less,but I get lil scared to shut some of them down.
You have a nice system,and once you get it tweaked,it should do ok.
That being said,AH2 is a terrible resource hog,and I wouldn't be surprised if a memory leak is found someday.Ozkansas is a very difficult map for me to get a decent fps.The fact that I hate not being able to get something to run well,is probably what keeps me hanging around.Good luck on getting your system running well.
IronDog

FBScud · « **Reply #9 on:** November 11, 2004, 05:42:39 PM »

Midnight, thanks for the post! I have your system except I selected the GeForce 6800 GT card with 256 mb. I've been going crazy trying to figure out what I can do to pump up the framerates. I've had my system for a few weeks and I've been reluctant to tweak XP Pro. Black Viper's site is very thorough so check it out.

Now...I have your identical framerates with 41 processes running. So...let me know what you tweak and how you make out. I'm running at 1280x1024, 512 textures preloaded in sys mem, vid settings maxed except distance which is about a quarter to half an inch to the right. Vsync is on due to the rubber bullet issue (do a search on the boards for Vsync).

Great system, you'll love it.

38ruk · « **Reply #10 on:** November 11, 2004, 06:31:42 PM »

the safe way to test shutting down proccess's is to hit control alt delete and end proccess, like i said ive got mine down to 9 . these are the ones i definetly need running. explorer , svchost csrss.exe, smss.exe, lsass.exe, winlogon.exe, system, system idle,and services.

now all peeps systems are different , i also have automatic updates off as well as remote assistance, and system restore. which all require a proccess

the worst thing that can happen by turning them off in windows task manger( cntr alt del) is that it will A) reboots its self B) lockup requiring a hard reset . (hold the power button in till it turns off)
GL 38

Skuzzy · « **Reply #11 on:** November 11, 2004, 08:45:03 PM »

Let me put you at rest. There is not a system on the market today that will allow AH to run at full on everything at very high frame rates.
With that said, it is doubtfull many people could tell the difference in the 'full' detail versus the 'medium'.

Now, if you are concerned with what you can do to make the game play butter smooth, you have the system to do it Midnight.

Try this configuration.
With Aces High at full defaults.
Set the game resolution at 1280x1024. Set the maximum texture size to 256,..maybe 512, but try 256 first.
Check both preload options.

Next, in the ATI control panel, set the anti-aliasing to 4x, set anisotropic filtering to 'Application Preferece'. Everything else can stay the same.

39 processes is way too many. Check with DmdBT. He has a system similar, but slightly faster and I think he probably has 21 running.

EDIT: Actually I just noticed you have 533Mhz DDR2 ram. It is going to be slower than DDR1 RAM at 200Mhz. DDR2 RAM suffers from very high latencies. And the 3.4Ghz Prescott CPU you have is a tad slower than a 3.2Ghz Northwood. Just FYI.

Dux · « **Reply #12 on:** November 11, 2004, 08:58:13 PM »

Re: the processes running... is it normal to have 6 separate "svchost"s running?

Skuzzy · « **Reply #13 on:** November 11, 2004, 09:24:49 PM »

Yes. They are virtual processes, not real ones.

Midnight · « **Reply #14 on:** November 11, 2004, 11:25:54 PM »

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Originally posted by Skuzzy
.... I just noticed you have 533Mhz DDR2 ram. It is going to be slower than DDR1 RAM at 200Mhz. DDR2 RAM suffers from very high latencies. And the 3.4Ghz Prescott CPU you have is a tad slower than a 3.2Ghz Northwood. Just FYI.

What the frick and frack? I'm not a PC hardware buff, so I guess I'm learning this the hard way... I buy Dell's so-called top of the line gaming system and the new DDR2 RAM is slower than older DDR1 ram AND my processor that runs at 3.4Ghz is slower than an older chipset 3.2Ghz?

I know you know your stuff, skuzzy, but please tell me you are kidding me?

Well, anyway, I've gone ahead and configured a different hardware profile for gaming, so I can hack away at will. Still playing with services.