Author Topic: Memory Lane (Read 669 times)

Murdr · « **on:** November 15, 2004, 01:48:37 AM »

Heh, found some old pages. I didnt even realize they were still up.
PJ University

Murdr sandwitch

You can never "check 6" too much

Octavius · « **Reply #1 on:** November 15, 2004, 02:02:17 AM »

Wow! Thats some detailed work you've got there Murdr. Still relevant

PJ University's link should be posted in the MOTD in the MA. Maybe some hamstards can get a clue!!

Murdr · « **Reply #2 on:** November 15, 2004, 06:38:42 AM »

Coincedently, there will soon be a "PJ" here to work with

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #3 on:** November 15, 2004, 07:16:20 AM »

I just wish we had the text at the bottom of the damn screen like in AW.

seems no matter where ya put it now its in the way of something

DipStick · « **Reply #4 on:** November 15, 2004, 09:04:37 AM »

Ahhhhhh... the good ol' days.

Guppy35 · « **Reply #5 on:** November 15, 2004, 01:32:46 PM »

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Originally posted by Murdr
Coincedently, there will soon be a "PJ" here to work with

I never understood the term PJ and really hated it for some reason. I never saw or heard of a real P38 driver referring to his plane as a PJ.

What the heck is a PJ other then something my kids put on when they went to bed?

That aside, I hope it isn't a J model to go with the L. Gotta go earlier in that H at least but an F or G would be even better.

Good flashbacks to the days when the 38 days of airwarrior. Kinda scary what folks could do with that thing, in particular in RR.

The P38 Pilots Union was a lot stronger back then too. I remember many an occasion where I'd meet up with a 38 driver from another country and we'd wing it into the third country for a bit of confusing action talking to your wingman on the open channel while you worked together

Dan/Slack

Howitzer · « **Reply #6 on:** November 15, 2004, 02:18:12 PM »

Maybe I should just post a new thread... but why do you guys want another 38 version? I'm not being combative, I just don't know the difference. If we have the L, wouldn't the H just be older and slower? Is there a certain version that would perform better than the one we have now?

Wurger · « **Reply #7 on:** November 15, 2004, 03:45:07 PM »

Yeah, it was great fun to take on all those supposed hot shot PJ pilots in the spit-o-death and spiral climb their butts and kill them. Man would they get PO'd!!!:p

Bazi

Octavius · « **Reply #8 on:** November 15, 2004, 04:01:51 PM »

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Originally posted by Howitzer
Maybe I should just post a new thread... but why do you guys want another 38 version? I'm not being combative, I just don't know the difference. If we have the L, wouldn't the H just be older and slower? Is there a certain version that would perform better than the one we have now?

The P38L is basically "all that a P38 should be." It doesn't work for very many historical setups... North Africa/Mediterranean, earlier ETO, earlier PTO, and other places.

Murdr · « **Reply #9 on:** November 15, 2004, 06:02:14 PM »

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Originally posted by Howitzer
Maybe I should just post a new thread... but why do you guys want another 38 version? I'm not being combative, I just don't know the difference. If we have the L, wouldn't the H just be older and slower? Is there a certain version that would perform better than the one we have now?

Slack answered part of that. The scenerio guys want a 38 that is more accurate for early war setups. With the ENY balancer Im sure many 38 drivers would like an earlier model to jump in when the ENY hits 15.
Mabey to spin that around, why do all the other major fighters have at least 2 varients, and the P38 only have 1?

From the E to the L the speed difference at 25k is about 25mph. Without looking it up I think the H is about 12mph slower at 25K, mainly do to, iirc the inefficent engine cooling system in early models. So yea, it is older and slower. Nor does it have the dive fillets for compression recovery. Of course it doesnt have the L model tail warning radar...oh wait, neither does the AH L model:)

Guppy35 · « **Reply #10 on:** November 15, 2004, 09:34:38 PM »

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Originally posted by Murdr
Slack answered part of that. The scenerio guys want a 38 that is more accurate for early war setups. With the ENY balancer Im sure many 38 drivers would like an earlier model to jump in when the ENY hits 15.
Mabey to spin that around, why do all the other major fighters have at least 2 varients, and the P38 only have 1?

From the E to the L the speed difference at 25k is about 25mph. Without looking it up I think the H is about 12mph slower at 25K, mainly do to, iirc the inefficent engine cooling system in early models. So yea, it is older and slower. Nor does it have the dive fillets for compression recovery. Of course it doesnt have the L model tail warning radar...oh wait, neither does the AH L model:)

That about covers it. And of course the early model with the smaller intakes just looks better in my opinion.

Dan/Slack

Murdr · « **Reply #11 on:** November 15, 2004, 11:16:37 PM »

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Originally posted by Octavius
Wow! Thats some detailed work you've got there Murdr. Still relevant PJ University's link should be posted in the MOTD in the MA. Maybe some hamstards can get a clue!!

Yea, just scanning back through some of these. For the most part things apply to the AH P38L. One of the main issues that need updated would be tactical consideration of the HO. Other that that, it is still pretty spot on.

RightF00T · « **Reply #12 on:** November 15, 2004, 11:35:46 PM »

Those FTDs sure were fun to fight in a Pony....

-Phil9

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #13 on:** November 15, 2004, 11:40:38 PM »

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Originally posted by Guppy35
I never understood the term PJ and really hated it for some reason. I never saw or heard of a real P38 driver referring to his plane as a PJ.

What the heck is a PJ other then something my kids put on when they went to bed?

PJ = P38 J model

Back ina land long ago and far away in a Place called Airwarrior they had the P38 J
Everyone shortened it to PJ
And so its been called ever since

Murdr · « **Reply #14 on:** November 15, 2004, 11:59:12 PM »

I always assumed that it was 'PJ' was easier to type than P38. Then again, I thought rtb was a typing thing, until I heard Lt Osbourne the pilot of that spy plane talking in a press conference. He said "The other MIG rtbed...excuse me. Returned to base"