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Offline dedalos

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« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2004, 02:43:53 PM »
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Have you ever flown over an ack site for real and tried to see it?

Seeing a 10 ft diameter hole with a gun and maybe 2-3 people in it isn't all that easy.  If any camo effort is made, even sandbags that are the same color as the background, you have to get really close.

Even finding the bright orange windsock on an uncontrolled field the first time you visit it can be challenging, and those suckers can be 10+ ft long, sitting in a 20 ft diameter ploughed cutout surrounded by orange and white markers.  A dude with sticks in his helmet manning a gun that has camo netting tied around the receiver is going to be pretty tough compared to that.

If the change was deliberate, you might think to ask HT or Pyro why the change was made, but then you'd have to first ask if it was deliberate or not, instead of just saying that it sucks and asking for it to be changed back.

My $.02


Good point.  However the change was not deliberate since all you have to do to see the acks, is adjust your sliders (I think the first one) to max.  Try it and you will see that they are visible from way out.  Its actually cool if your system can handle it cause you can see the tracers fired at other AC from maybe 4-5K out
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« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2004, 02:50:36 PM »
Yes.  Need to see the ack guns.

As it is now, I'm shooting at all the ack emplacements I see on the chance they're still up, because I don't want to drop my fps to 9 just to kill ack.  Performance has been very disappointing for me with AH2.
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« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2004, 03:06:53 PM »
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I'm not sure if your trying to make a point and I'm completly missing it Righty or if your just have no point to make.


I just have no point to make, but you bit. :)

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« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2004, 03:10:33 PM »
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You are right.  It is a problem but only if you don't have your sliders set to max  



Most do this; set their sliders to max and get a tremendous hit in FR. As it is, mine drops from 120 to 40 with max settings. I can live with 40frps. But for others, on max settings they are getting around 10+/- frps.

Eagl, I wont even try to argue with you. Being a true to life fighter jock, you have surely seen much more than I could ever hope to see.

But the simple fact still remains. That for some, they can be 500ft over an ack, an ack which is up, and still never see the thing.

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« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2004, 03:36:12 PM »
I think eagl's view (pun intended) is reasonable, as is having risk/reward in the game.

500' and can't see the ack? Are you sure you don't mean 500 yards?
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« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2004, 04:27:40 PM »
heh.

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« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2004, 04:35:38 PM »
LISTEN UP YOU WHORZ>..


Why do u wanna see the Ak?...

To Vulch?....what a bunch of weenies..get soem skill..GROW a pair..AND FITE LIKE A MAN



Too  funny... a bunch of weenies..crying that they get shot by ak while trying to vulch?....Doesnt tht get boring..or seeing yourself land 10 kills in ur Chog..and Hi five from all ur pale skinned "homies"  make you feel liek you did soemthing productive today..


well you didnt......You have no skill....

I wont call all of you ghey....



But I do see you flying the Rainbow flags



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PS..I thot this was about the Hi alt ak death and I woudl agree..I hate it...But..your crying cause u got kileld by ak gusn whiel trying to vulch??....Rainbow warriors

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« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2004, 04:37:20 PM »
My point is that currently the acks have nothing above the ground except the gun itself.

Its small, black, and hard to see at distance, for sure.

But try this, take a 10 foot cammo net, set it on the ground & fly over it. Note how visible it is.

Now take that same net, raise it up 6 feet, set some boxes of ammo & some raised sandbangs around below it.

At any angle except 90 degrees straight up, it just got a lot more visible.
Heck the shadow's alone will tell you where it is. THATS what we are lacking.

Current acks fade in & out with the ground textures. They need to be raised ABOVE them. As a real ack would be.

Next, foot traffic leaves trails. Changing duty, hauling in ammo, in real life all leaves activity patterns visible on the ground itself.  This too we are lacking.

And don't tell me I can't see any of it from 500 yards away in the air.  I've been up & flown low over fields & farms before.  Anything thats raised up from the  surrounding ground becomes much more visible from the air.

Now do I expect this to change tommorow, of course not. As a matter of fact we had this same ground texture flicker in the past in AH1. And lived with it for a while till it was fixed. I "Think" HT fixed it by changing the elev of the fields vs the dirt beneath it a few inches. I could be wrong on HOW, but it did change.

We'd just like to see it fixed again when possible.

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« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2004, 04:59:27 PM »
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LISTEN UP YOU WHORZ>..


Why do u wanna see the Ak?...

To Vulch?....what a bunch of weenies..get soem skill..GROW a pair..AND FITE LIKE A MAN



Too  funny... a bunch of weenies..crying that they get shot by ak while trying to vulch?....Doesnt tht get boring..or seeing yourself land 10 kills in ur Chog..and Hi five from all ur pale skinned "homies"  make you feel liek you did soemthing productive today..


well you didnt......You have no skill....

I wont call all of you ghey....



But I do see you flying the Rainbow flags



Love
BiGB
xoxo


PS..I thot this was about the Hi alt ak death and I woudl agree..I hate it...But..your crying cause u got kileld by ak gusn whiel trying to vulch??....Rainbow warriors



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« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2004, 05:00:51 PM »
BGB forgot his meds again I see.

Now, I dont know about the MA BGB, but I know that you know from experience that I can get kills in "other" arenas just as easily without vulching. :)

This isnt' about getting Kills Maw.

PS: If you had a clue on how to read a post and gain the facts you'd be able to grasp the most imporant point here. One that doesnt involve living or dying. Nor vulching.

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« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2004, 05:51:13 PM »
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Have you ever flown over an ack site for real and tried to see it?

Seeing a 10 ft diameter hole with a gun and maybe 2-3 people in it isn't all that easy.  If any camo effort is made, even sandbags that are the same color as the background, you have to get really close.

Even finding the bright orange windsock on an uncontrolled field the first time you visit it can be challenging, and those suckers can be 10+ ft long, sitting in a 20 ft diameter ploughed cutout surrounded by orange and white markers.  A dude with sticks in his helmet manning a gun that has camo netting tied around the receiver is going to be pretty tough compared to that.

If the change was deliberate, you might think to ask HT or Pyro why the change was made, but then you'd have to first ask if it was deliberate or not, instead of just saying that it sucks and asking for it to be changed back.

My $.02



You are missing the point totally.  This isn't something that HT "changed" so as to make ack more difficult.  It's part of AH2's graphic system.  

If you can run full sliders (top one) to max, then seeing/shooting ack is not a big deal.  IF you don't have 2gigs of ram, a 4ghz cpu, and dual 256mb vid cards then you prob. adjust your slider towards the right more, and have to get reasonable close to see the acks.

The POINT is/was that this is not about how tough it is to see the acks, because HT wanted it done that way.  It's more a point about graphics.  

If I don't mind the 5fps, I can see ack at 2k out.  If I want 30fps, I have to be closer to 1k.
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« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2004, 05:58:07 PM »
Having max textures at 1024 seems to help.  I noticed on the FinRus map in the CT that the fields with grass runways were really hard to pick out.  I'd have to almost land in order to see where the runways were.  Set my textures up to 1024 and I can not only make out the grass runways, I can see the acks too.  I have no problem gunning ack.  Well, that and my sliders are at between 75-80%.  Lots of guys in this game with better systems than me.  I'm not trying to put anybody else's system down or make any rude comments, and yes I know there are people who dont have a system that will handle 1024 MT and push the sliders up.  Just tellin ya what worked for me.  Good luck.

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« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2004, 06:00:44 PM »
Agree Morph...flying around..and BOOM your dead because you couldn't even see it...does seem to suk.:(
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« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2004, 07:17:50 PM »
Reading through this post is seeing that players have it too easy. Just whine a bit and you'll get your way.
What ever happened to DEAL WITH IT! The game is harder and therefore better. There is more to it! I can tell just by the "I can't do it!" comments. How about I wipe your butts and pin up yor diapers for you!

It's time that we kill this type of thread in its inception and leave room for more important matters.
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« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2004, 07:58:43 PM »
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Reading through this post is seeing that players have it too easy. Just whine a bit and you'll get your way.
What ever happened to DEAL WITH IT! The game is harder and therefore better. There is more to it! I can tell just by the "I can't do it!" comments. How about I wipe your butts and pin up yor diapers for you!

It's time that we kill this type of thread in its inception and leave room for more important matters.



Stegahorse, this thread isnt about whining to make things easier. Its about asking for improvements. I guess by your standards we should still be playing AW Dos. If the game stays the same without improvements then it will become a stale. All everyone wants is the ability to see the acks like a WWII pilot would have been able to see. If you shoot it and destroy it, there should be a visual clue that says, "I dont need to shoot that its already dead" ie. fire,smoke, crater or all the above.  

Suggesting improvenments shouldnt be squelched they should be invited.

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